Lily's Patronus (WAS: Re: Patronus question again)

pippin_999 foxmoth at qnet.com
Thu Jul 2 15:26:26 UTC 2009


No: HPFGUIDX 187214

 
> zanooda:
> 
> Maybe not, but I still think that no one, except DD, knew Snape's Patronus. I'll bother you with one more quote from the same web-chat:
> 
> - How did snape keep his patronus secret from the rest of the order?
> - He was careful not to use the talking Patronus means of communication with them. This was not difficult, as his particular job within the Order, ie, as spy, meant that sending a Patronus to any of them might have given away his true allegiance.
> 

Pippin:
Dumbledore was surprised that Snape's patronus was still a doe, so Snape must indeed have used other means of communication with him and the Order as a rule.  However, Dumbledore would not want Harry to know that there was a reason Snape avoided using his patronus. That gives DD a reason for being  misleading in OOP, referring to the Order's means of communication instead of Snape's when he explains how Snape got in touch with the Order.

 
> > Carol wrote:
>  
> > Anyway, I agree with Magpie that Harry's reference to the doe 
> > as his mother's Patronus is a slip of some kind

Pippin:
Harry speaks as if Voldemort would have understood the significance of Snape's patronus if he'd seen it.  He also seems to think that Voldemort would recognize "either must die at the hand of the other" as being the part of the prophecy. And then there's his expectation that Scrimgeour knows how he got the scars on his hand. In other words, Harry is given to dubious assumptions of a certain kind. 

That his mother's patronus was a doe might be another in itself, though in this case it might be the same sort of subconscious insight that made Harry's patronus take the form of a stag.

 
> > potioncat wrote:
> 
> > And I'm not sure Minerva's represents herself unless she's 
> > incredibly self reliant and self confident.

Pippin:
The domestic cat appears to cherish its independence, yet functionally depends on  human infrastructure. That could be analogous to both Minerva and Dolores -- they feel that they are self-reliant, yet they depend on the Hogwarts and Ministry power structures.


Pippin





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