DH reread CH 30

[Carol]

No: HPFGUIDX 187477

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "zanooda2" <zanooda2 at ...> wrote:
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> --- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "dumbledore11214" <dumbledore11214@> wrote:
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> > I mean some spells already ask for something specific, 
> > but say Accio! requires you to name the object you want, right?
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> zanooda:
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> Not necessarily. If the object is in plain sight, you don't need to name it, just to point, like Harry did with the Triwizard cup in the graveyard :-). As for Imperio, no one says what he wants to be done out loud. In GoF Imperiused Harry hears Mad-Eye's voice inside his head, but I think it's just that - inside the head, not outside :-). As Harry describes it in DH, the order seems to flow from the mind through the arm into the wand, and believe this exactly how it works.
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Carol adds:

Exactly. And Mrs. Weasley just says "Accio! Accio! Accio!" when she's summoning Nosebleed Nougats and so forth from Fred and George's pockets and the cuffs of their jeans. 

And there's also the matter of nonverbal spells. I think that when a fully qualified and highly skilled wizard wants to conjure, say, a chair or a stretcher, he or she only needs to picture the object in his or her mind rather than reciting a nonverbal spell. (Snape says that concentration is the key to nonverbal spells; no doubt it gets easier with time and practice.) 

With regard to Imperius, some of the orders are so complex that it would be hard to think them in words; much faster to picture them mentally, especially if you want them to be carried out instantly or over the long term. 

Of course, there are discrepancies with all these spells. (How can DD conjure Madam Rosmerta's mead when you can't conjure food or, presumably, drinks [other than the temporary water spell, Aguamenti]? Maybe he summoned them instead?)

Carol, who thinks that wands must be able to read a skilled wizard's mind and intentions or nonverbal spells would be impossible