Snape and Marauders WAS :Draco and Intent
dumbledore11214
dumbledore11214 at yahoo.com
Fri Jun 5 00:52:00 UTC 2009
No: HPFGUIDX 186874
> > Alla:
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> > So now it is a certainty that another DE would have had the same assignment? I certainly accept it as a possibility, but I also accept as a possibility that but for Snape no other Death Eater would have overheard the Prophecy and did not report it to Voldemort. And he would have never attacked Potters thus leaving Harry with two parents, who while fighting in the war would have still had a chance to survive and even if they were killed later still give Harry some years of happiness.
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> Montavilla47:
> Maybe. Or maybe Voldemort would never have heard the prophecy and
> never invoked it, and consequently, never have been stopped by anything.
Alla:
Or maybe this prophecy would have remain an unfulfilled as many other prophecies in MoM. And maybe another prophecy about how to defeat Voldemort would have come to life at some time. OR maybe he would have just been defeated with no prophecy at all.
But we can endlessly come up with what ifs of course. My point is that I find the argument that Lily and James would have been **grateful** to Snape to be mind boggling.
It is to me as if Wormtail for example suddenly become very very very sorry (for real) that he helped Voldie to get a body in GoF and did some sort of great deed to help kill him. And then somebody would say oh yeah, we have to be really grateful to him. After all he helped to get rid of Voldemort, but to me nothing can change that he helped bring Voldemort back. I will be the first one to say that he can atone for this deed, but to be grateful for it?
And maybe it is just the matter of degree to me, but to me there are some deeds for which one just cannot be grateful at all. I mean, I am sure WW could be grateful to Snape, after all Harry did save their asses and Snape is responsible in the round about way for creating the Chosen one. But any of the Potters being grateful to Snape? For what exactly I wonder.
Montavilla47:
> In which case, James and Lily, as members of the Order, might have been
> killed in a matter of months--just like the other members were. Remember
> that they were "dropping like flies."
Alla:
Yep, I also remember that several order members survived the first war and see no reason why Lily and James could not have been amongst them.
Montavilla47:
> And, since the complicated set of circumstances in which Lily's refusal to
> stand aside actually meant something (unlike the other mother who shielded
> her children) would not have taken place, Voldemort could have killed
> James, her, and Harry without the magical backlash.
>
> Or sent his minions to do the same thing.
Alla:
Yes, or they would have been defied Voldemort the fourth time and lived till the old age.
JMO,
Alla
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