Prophecies and Chosen Ones/ Spoilers for FALLEN by Thomas Sniegoski

dumbledore11214 dumbledore11214 at yahoo.com
Fri Jun 5 03:15:39 UTC 2009


No: HPFGUIDX 186875

> Zara:
> Thanks! I think it is fair because she introduces the equivalence as reflective of how people in her world might think, very shortly after the text of the Prophecy is presented to us at the end of OotP, namely in Chapter 1 of HBP.
> 
> > HBP, "The Other Minister":
> > "Back? When you say 'back'...he's alive?"
>   <snip PM's memories of previous meeting>
> > "Yes, alive," said Fudge. "That is - I don't know - is a man alive if he can't be killed? I don't really understand it, and Dumbledore won't explain properly - but anyway, he's certainly got a body and is walking and talking and killing, so I suppose, for the purposes of our discussion, yes, he's alive."

<SNIP>

Alla:

Sorry about that Zara, I really wanted to reply to this one and did not do so right away. Even though I am not sure that my point will be a significant one.

I just want to clarify that I of course consider this to be a fair **interpretation** of the Prophecy and as I said upthread I like it very much and as intepretation it is supported within the text.

My beef of the sorts is with the wording of Prophecy itself, that's all. I am just saying that in my opinion Prophecy which is coming true should come true exactly as it is written, you know?

I mean, yes, absolutely I can see how people in WW based on the text that you provided and other hints will think that person who cannot die is not truly alive, absolutely.

But even though it is a part of the meaning of the word that wizards think of, is it really the **whole** meaning of the word alive in Potterverse?

I mean, are we saying that people of Potterverse when they say that person is alive do not mean that such person can talk, laugh, go out with friends, have sex, I don't know, get married, maybe have kids?

Are we saying that the only thing that comes to mind for people of Potterverse when they say "live", they mean die in proper time?

Do you see what I am saying? To me if this is what author meant and I am pretty convinced that this is what she meant, she is being way too ambigious and not introducing a fair prophecy, but sort of cheats instead.

For example Prophecy in the Series Fallen says that the Chosen's destiny will be to help fallen angels who express remorse return home to heaven (paraphrase). I am imagining the prophecy coming through which would have really meant that Kid will have to help fallen angels to return home and that would really mean staying on earth or something like that.

I would have shaken my head and said huh, how exactly it is fair?

And of course in Rick Riordan series, every word is coming true exactly as it was written.

JMO,

Alla





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