Snape and Marauders WAS :Draco and Intent

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> > Alla:
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>  My point is that I find the argument that Lily and James would have been **grateful** to Snape to be mind boggling.
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> Pippin:
> Why wouldn't they be grateful? Snape saved Harry more than once, and also Lupin and Sirius.

Alla:

Out of curiosity when exactly did he save Sirius? You don't mean in Shrieking Shack I hope?


Pippin:
Of course nothing can change what Snape did before, but so what? If a person atones for the wrong they did, then they are back at square one, and just as deserving of appreciation from their fellow beings as anyone else. Are Lily and James supposed to hold a grudge against Snape for all eternity? I would hope they have better things to think about. 

Alla:

But I thought they were supposed to be grateful not for Snape's saving Harry's life (by the way when was a second time he saved Harry's life?) but for the fact that Snape sold him to Voldemort and helped made Harry an orphan? And yes, I do find it mind boggling. No, I do not think they should hold grudge for all eternity, although I would be delighted to see them punch Snape, but that's my own satisfaction.

I can totally see them forgiving Snape. Grateful for saving Harry's life? I have no problem with Harry feeling gratitude for that. But I am trying to imagine being that God forbid something happens to me and I cannot protect children in my family whom I love and then person who did something to me saves my child's life. That's nice! I guess can be grateful for that, but I can never be grateful (eh, I will be dead, but we are running with this hypothetical, so I guess my soul will be grateful) for the fact that such person made it impossible for me being there and protect my child in the first place.

I can never be grateful for the sufferings that my child will endure, the hateful relatives that he will be placed with because of that person. Obviously, I am speculating and that is why I am talking from the first person, but that is what I would imagine Lily and James in the afterlife thinking.

So, yes, sure they could be grateful for Snape saving Harry's life in their first year. But it is quite possible that the events would have been so different if they were alive that no such need would have arisen in th first place.


> > Alla:
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> > Yep, I also remember that several order members survived the first war and see no reason why Lily and James could not have been amongst them.
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> Pippin:
> Were Order members being killed faster than they were being recruited? They were. Eventually the number of Order members must decline to zero, at which point Lily and James will be dead, along with all of their friends.

Alla:

Again - there are many maybes. It is not math progression, which will not end till the end. Maybe another event would have come that helped turned the luck in the war. 

JMO,

Alla