Snape and Marauders WAS :Draco and Intent

[jkoney65]

No: HPFGUIDX 186936

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "montavilla47" <montavilla47 at ...> wrote:
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> --- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "dumbledore11214" <dumbledore11214@> wrote:
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> Alla: 
> > Oh and could you please clarify how exactly Dumbledore is responsible for Lily and James being killed? I hold him responsible a plenty for how he decided Harry's fate, but no, I do not hold him responsible for their deaths at all.
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> Montavilla47:
> He knew he was seeing a true prophecy when he 
> heard it.  He knew that, whether it was a true prophecy
> or not, Voldemort was likely to take it seriously and
> act upon it.  (If Snape knew that much, so did Dumbledore.)
> 
> He knew that the Hogshead was filled with shady 
> characters, who might or might not be, but probably
> were, connected to Dark Wizardry and probably close
> enough to Voldemort to come into his purview.  
> 
> He knew that Snape had overheard at least part of the
> prophecy.  
> 
> As J.Odell's essay points out, Dumbledore had sanctioned
> obliviation (to a child!) for far less reason than to save a 
> life.  
> 
> But he doesn't bother to check what Snape had overheard--
> doesn't bother to obliviate that information from a likely
> Death Eater or Death Eater associate?  He just lets the 
> fellow toddle off to tattle to Voldemort?
> 
> That seems to me as irresponsible as Sirius pushing 
> Peter as a Secret Keeper.
>
 
jkoney
I'm not sure that Dumbledore believed it was a real prophecy. I didn't think he held much stock in them.

If Voldemort wanted to spend time interpreting it that would at least distract him. A child about to be born isn't a threat right now. It wouldn't make a lot of sense to go after him. It's going to be years before he could be a threat. If the war was going Voldemort's way why would he waste the time looking for a baby.

Only when Voldemort decided to act did the prophecy come true. Otherwise it would have just been another one on a shelf.

Did it turn out to be a blunder? Yes, but I can't blame Dumbledore for thinking it was a bogus prophecy. Especially since Sybil had never made a real one before that.

What was wrong with Sirius pushing Peter to be the secret keeper. He didn't know Peter was the spy. In fact Sirius was taking a huge risk. Everyone would guess it was him. Their mistake was making it a double blind switch. No one but the four of them knew about it. There was no one to back Sirius up, even if he got a trial.