Snape and Lucius was James and Intent And Snape

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No: HPFGUIDX 187103

Alla:
> > I wanted to find something else though, but maybe I dreamt it up - I thought
that somewhere in DH or HBP there is a reference to Voldemort being unhappy how
Lucius did not safeguard the diary horcrux well. I will check it more at the
later time.
>
Pippin:
It's in HBP chapter 23. <SNIP canon go UPTHREAD to read it>

Alla:

Aha, thank you so much for typing it up.

Pippin:
According to Dumbledore, then, Lucius only knew the diary would open the
chamber, not that it would possess or sap the life of the person he gave it
too, which only a horcrux could have done. Incidentally, this shows that Lucius
knew that TM Riddle was Voldemort and expected other people to know also --
otherwise there wouldn't be anything incriminating about an old diary.

Alla:

Well, my original point was to argue against the idea that Lucius has no idea what diary is really, I mean even if he does not know that it is a Horcrux, isn't it enough that he knows that Diary would open the Chamber and gives it to Ginny anyway, not just disposes of some unknown dark arts item?

I do not understand though how it will not be incriminating if other people do not know connection between Riddle and Vodlemort's names, they would still know that Diary opened the Chamber?

Potioncat:
<SNIP>
I'm pretty sure Lucius didn't know the Diary was a
Horcrux, but there's something about LV's wrath at the loss of the diary. This
is why I think Lucius was acting on his own when he slipped the diary into
Ginny's things.

So obviously, if he's using his master's belongings for his own purposes, he
isn't expecting LV to come back, and he's comfortable moving along on his own
agenda.

Alla:

Oh I agree with you that Lucius was acting on his own and would have been quite happy if Voldie would not have come back, thank you very much, heh. It does not mean to me though that his agenda was much different from Voldie's agenda. I know you did not say that, I am responding to the thread. I believe we are in agreement on that.

JMO,

Alla