Lily and Snape, response to Julie

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Sorry about replying by starting new topic, but I am replying from my Blackberry and it does not allow me to bottom post, so I figured I am technically not violating any rules by just referencing your points, and we were due for changing the name of the thread anyway me thinks :). So here we go. Of course this scene is now canon, where did I say that it is not? I said that I believe that JKR tried really hard not to reveal that they were best friends and thus made Lily defend him as if she were defending a stranger and I stand by what I said, but I certainly agree that she did not defend him enough - for the best friend that is. The thing is though, she *did* defend him, didn't she? If she and Snape were only classmates I would have no problems with her behavior,except that urge to laugh. Since they did know each other very well, sure I have some problems with her behavior, urge to laugh was not good at all, but you know, all my problems with her behavior end after he called her name.So again, this scene is certainly canon. I think though it is a totally reasonable point to pander over whether if this was not a secret, whether JKR would have wrote this scene same way. Just as I think it is a reasonable point to think about whether had the Sirius not to be in prison till POA, whether Dumbledore had been portrayed as not moving a finger to help him. One can certainly argue that this was in character for Dumbledore to be such an asshole or for whatever other reasons to act that way and goodness knows after DH I do not have much energy to argue against it. One can certainly argue that it was in character for Lily to be an ass in this scene. Again I totally respect this, but I think I am allowed to have my doubts  right?  Regardless, I certainly do not think that she was acting as saint in that scene, when I said that she was a saint I meant that she was one for putting up with Snape before that, I meant that she did not walk away right after she knew that snape called all muggleborns that name - I never doubted that Lily was speaking from personal experience when she accuses Snape of that. For that I called her saint, but certainly not for this scene. Oh and I can never agree that by calling him Snivellius she stoops to his level, I think she so has many steps to go to his level. She uses mean revenge on one person, he thinks of her whole social group or ethnicity as inferior and she insults him back, only to me her insult to him is a righteous anger transformed into mean nickname and his insult shows his disgusting world view. IMO of course. Alla