Standing up to bullies WAS: Re: Which Harry Potter character
sistermagpie
sistermagpie at earthlink.net
Tue Mar 3 15:13:20 UTC 2009
No: HPFGUIDX 185998
> > Magpie:
> > And Zach probably thought he was the one standing up against the
man
> there! I really don't see what Zach is saying there that doesn't
fall
> into the realm of normal commenting on a game.
>
> Pippin:
> Is it normal to make an unsubstantiated accusation of favoritism?
Mapgie:
He's commenting on the team line-up, so yeah, I think that
speculating that Ron's well-known friendship with Harry had a hand in
him being on the team would probably be considered within limits to
mention. As Kemper pointed out, he's not completely far off. Ron
isn't just on the team because Hermione hexed his rival (although
that, too, I could imagine him saying in his commentary if it was
rumored to be true), he's also there because Harry knew he'd get
along with him more than McClaggen. The year before he was put on the
team despite not being up to snuff because his brothers were good
players. Ron really has always been a borderline player given a
chance because of things outside his skill, including his connections.
Likewise, I wouldn't be surprised or think it would be off-limits if
Lee Jordan mentioned Lucius buying brooms for the Slytherin team,
especially if Draco had a season like Ron did the first year. I get
why Zach's remarks make the team angry, I just don't think it's
bullying.
Pippin:
Zach
> is saying the kind of things that McGonagall would have forced Lee
to
> withdraw, perhaps because that's the protocol for auditions or
because
> she's bending over backwards so as not to look like she's deflecting
> criticism from her own house.
Magpie:
Commentary on Quidditch games has always been biased and included
personal remarks, and I just don't think it's that surprising that
something like this would get said, however McGonagall says the
commentary is supposed to go. If McGonagall didn't force Zach to
retract his statements (as you claim she would have done with Lee),
perhaps she thought it was okay. I don't recall being told that
McGonagall was bending over backwards to not look like she's
deflecting criticism from her own house, etc.
But however McGonagall feels about what Zach said, whatever
punishment she did or didn't give to Ginny (perhaps Ginny's claim it
was an accident saved her), I simply don't think it's bullying. To
me, bullying requires more than just insulting someone in any
context. Draco's accused of buying his way onto the team by Hermione,
but I don't think she's bullying him when she says it.
-m
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