MAGICkal elITE - The Boy, The Man, The Hero, the Saint.

[Steve]

No: HPFGUIDX 186425

---  "Geoff Bannister" <gbannister10 at ...> wrote:
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> ---  "Steve" <bboyminn@> wrote:
> >
> > ---  "Geoff Bannister" <gbannister10@> wrote:
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> Geoff: 
> > > I consider Harry as an everyman because I cannot see him as 
> > > Christ as some people do. ...
> > > 
> > > 
> > > <snip>
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> bboyminn: 
> > ...
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> > First, I don't think anyone can remotely imply that Harry is
> > 'Christ' in the story. But he could symbolically and 
> > metaphorically represent a Christ-like figure.
> 
> Geoff:
> ...
> 
> You are echoing what I have been saying for a week or so, 
> namely that I cannot accept the idea of someone being a 
> Christ figure, but they *can* be Christ-like. 
> 
> As I wrote, I find Kemper's position arguable in that he 
> cannot accept either the Christ or Everyman positions and 
> so postulates a third way - the "Harry is an alien" which 
> seems (to me) decidedly strange.
>

bboyminn:

It depends on what you mean by 'alien'. If a person means that
Harry is a space alien, then I simply can't buy it. However,
if they simply mean that Harry is an outsider, I can see it,
though I think it is a little thin to base a whole foundation
on.

I think perhaps Harry sees himself as something of an 
alien/outsider, especially at the beginning of the series. He
knows he doesn't quite fit into the muggle world, though a
certain blame for that feeling of 'outsider' falls on the
Dursleys. Then he is taken into the wizard world where he 
still feels like an outsider. Ron, in Harry's eyes, knows
everything about magic, and Harry doesn't make the best start
at Hogwart's either. 

But as the series goes on, Harry sense of 'alienness' diminishes,
and he comes to see the wizard world as his only true home.

So, much like the 'Christ-like' aspect, though I think less so,
while I don't see Harry as 'alien/outsider', I think in the
beginning he see himself that way.

But again, if we are talking about 'space aliens', I'm just not
buying it.

Oh...and I meant to say that not only are you an educated man of
faith, but also a very intelligent person as well. (Education being no
guarantee of intelligence.)

Steve/bboyminn