Lack of re-examination SPOILERS for Corambis and Tigana

horridporrid03 horridporrid03 at yahoo.com
Sun May 10 17:45:55 UTC 2009


No: HPFGUIDX 186542

> >>Catlady:
> Betsy! Unfortunately I have no reply to your post, but I am so glad to see you posting. Btw I thought of your post about the sword in the pond when Carol suggested that a Freudian critic could have fun with Hermione using a phallic fang to destroy a kteic cup.

Betsy Hp:
Thanks!  Fun with Freud is always awesome. :D

> >>Pippin:
> <SNIP>
>> Are you saying it was authorial sloppiness that Fake!Moody was an effective teacher? Didn't Mussolini made the trains run on time? Do horrible people have to be shown as horrible at everything they do?

> Betsy Hp:
> <SNIP>
>> I'd like to think that if I were standing next to Simon Wiesenthal I wouldn't praise Hitler's building of the Autobahn. So yeah, I'd prefer to think JKR was merely sloppy there.
>> <snip>

> >>Alla:
> <snip>
> I agree with Pippin, I do not think it is sloppiness at all. In Tigana, Erlein whom our main good guy enslaved, literally, because he needed Erlein's help to free the country from tyrants, lets good guys have it in the best traditions of Snape. Only to me Erlein seems to have much more reason to do that and one of the things he says is that the roads are now much safer when the tyrants are in charge basically rather when native duke was in charge. And you know, he is right.  Roads **are** safer, and tyrants are still tyrants and need to be dealt with.
> JMO,

Betsy Hp:
I skipped everything having to do with Corambis because I haven't read it yet. :D  So dealing just with this part: Yes, Fake!Moody was a good teacher to a certain extent.  The autobahn is pretty darn cool.  I'm *still* not going to chat with a holocaust survivor about how, sure Hitler was bad at some things but boy did he know good roads!  Strikes me as rude, and also a colossal missing of the point.

I will say, I thought it was a cool choice to have Fake!Moody be a good and charismatic teacher.  It added a nice shade of gray to what should have become a pretty dark character.  But, per Harry, he never really became all that dark.  *I* put pieces together and decided Fake!Moody was a bad sort that shouldn't have been allowed around children, but I never got the sense JKR agreed with me. Certainly Harry never thought through the implications of one of his favorite teachers of that year being a sadist.

Oh, I just had a thought: having Dean praise Fake!Moody actually makes some sense.  He's not aware of Neville's past at that point (iirc) and as a Muggle-born he's totally removed from the history of the first war and Crouch, Jr.'s part in it.  It's unfortunate though that JKR didn't give us a reaction from Neville for Harry to bounce off of.  Something to show us that Harry doesn't fully agree with Dean's ill informed sentiments. 

Betsy Hp





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