Re: Snape and Harrys Sadism (was: Lack of re-examination)
Zara
zgirnius at yahoo.com
Tue May 19 02:44:53 UTC 2009
No: HPFGUIDX 186648
> jkoney
> It matters because she is the one who created him and has his story in her head/notes. She wrote him with specific thoughts and a certain point of view. At the worst the author can be unable to make you see that point. For me it's Harry naming his son after Snape. That I don't understand, but since she tells me it's true then I will go along with it.
Zara:
That Harry Potter gave the middle name Severus to his son, and did so specifically to name him after Snape, is not an opinion of Rowling's hidden away in her notes or revealed to us in some obscure interview. It is a factual occurence within the series that we are shown in the Epilogue of Deathly Hallows. Either that, or we must suppose Harry deliberately lied to his son and there is some other, obscure to me reason that Al Sev is so named that we will never learn.
> jkoney:
> You may be able to interpret the characters as you see fit, but that doesn't mean you are interpreting the way they were intended to be interpreted.
Zara:
Nor did I state I was. Nor is it important to me that I do so.
> jkoney:
> Some people liked Draco in the early books. There was nothing good about him at all in those scenes. He was arrogant, petty, insulting, etc. He would then hide behind Crabbe, Goyle, Snape or his father. How does one see him as a good character at that point?
Zara:
How else does one see him, as an evil eleven year old boy? We might reasonably fear he will be walking down a path that might one day lead him into evil; that is another matter. We might also suspect something would divert him from such a path. Both would be equally speculative suppositions (and the latter would be more correct, IMNSVHO).
But I would disagree we saw nothing to like about him. His initial approach to Harry, an unknown boy at Madam Malkin's, revealed him to have been raised in some objectionable views by his family, but was otherwise a reasonable depiction of a boy trying to impress another in an attempt to make a friend.
> jkoney:
> Again I see it as a either a failure of the author or a failure of the reader.
Zara:
It seems to be a widely held view, that Severus Snape is perhaps Rowling's finest literary creation to date. Yet there are almost as many opinions about this character as there are readers. *This*, you would call a failure by Rowling? I would call it a triumph. <bg>
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