DH reread CH 20

[dumbledore11214]

No: HPFGUIDX 186718

bboyminn:

There is a difference between being brave and being foolhardy.
Harry doesn't fear Voldemort's name, he has no problem with
saying it, and even does so later at a most inopportune
moment. Thereby calling the Snatchers down on them.

But, he does so accidentally. It would be foolhardy and stupid
in the extreme to use the name knowing that it bring a certain
and very real doom upon you.

Harry doesn't fear the name, not at all, but he reasonably
fears the very real consequences of speaking the name at
that time and place.

Alla:

Well yes, from within the story I do not really disagree with anything wrote here, it is not quite what I meant though. I mean, the fact that if Harry will say Voldemort's name now he will be foolhardy instead of brave, is my point.

I am just trying to figure out how these two moments mesh together in terms of symbolism and to me they really don't, to me they sort of cross each other out.

I thought that initially when Dumbledore was teaching Harry that, it was a moment of heroism, NOT foolhardiness and I thought that it is the moment that author wants her characters to follow, you know?

I was thinking that maybe eventually everybody will say Voldemort's name without fear and that somehow will play up in the moment of victory. 

But now what we are having is the fact that unless one is idiot, he should not say the name, you know?

I guess I am wondering why this moment was needed in the first place.


bboyminn:
<SNIP>
Now we the reader, can see all this clearly in hindsight, but
in the moment, while I'm sure Harry is certainly puzzled, he
doesn't have enough information to put it all together and reach
the correct conclusion. A conclusion that he does eventually
reach, though a little too late.

Alla:

Well, sure however what I am saying is how many clues are necessary for Harry to be clued in before the danger really hits and he gets it?

I mean sure it is needed for the story, but as you said narrator increases the feeling that something wrong consistently through the whole visit – it is his unkempt appearance first, it is his unwillingness to let them in at first, it is narrator observing Xeno having painful struggle, etc.

Nothing, they do nothing. I mean, here I can at least I understand that they may want to give Luna's father benefit of the doubt before they do anything, but nothing to me would explain Harry doing nothing when he hears hold him when they met Batilda!Snakey.

bboyminn:
Just finished reading "Deathly Hallows" again, and am now about
80% through "Half-Blood Prince". They still hold together as
fantastic stories, even after all this time and many readings.

Alla:

Agreed.