Sadism or not ? McGonagall and her punishments

dumbledore11214 dumbledore11214 at yahoo.com
Mon May 25 04:15:07 UTC 2009


No: HPFGUIDX 186742

Alla:

> British public schools do not have Quidditch, do they not? And
> the list of examples that I can give of the things existing in
> Hogwarts and not in any British public school can go on and on.

Shaun:
<SNIP>
No, but they do have Rugby and Football (soccer) and the children would
understand the fanaticism associated with Quidditch because they are used to
similar fanaticism associated with real sports at school - and especially at
traditional boarding schools ("Play up, play up, and play the game!") JKR
routinely draws on children's experience of their schools so they understand
Hogwarts. When she 'perverts' that understanding, she explains in quite a
lot of detail that she's doing it.

When we first discover that detentions at Hogwarts aren't like the typical
detentions at a Muggle school, Hagrid explicitly explains the difference (to
Draco) .<SNIP>


Alla:

Exactly. They have sports and they understand the fanaticism associated with
them. Just as let's see kids in Ukraine would perfectly well understand the
soccer (I am used to call soccer football myself), kids in America would
understand fanaticism associated with baseball, American football, etc.

Kids who **never in their life** went to boarding schools could understand
fanaticism associated with sports. I did not. I love soccer soooo much. My
brother did not go to boarding school, he is a huge fan of soccer.

But they do not have the particular sport called Quidditch. It is specifically
applies to Hogwarts and to no other of real life schools.

Neither do they have the Triwizards tournament. I am sure they have schools and
interschools competitions. They however do not have tournaments where kids are
trying to take eggs from Dragons, fight in the magical maze, etc. It is Hogwarts
specific in detail but in a feel it is understandable for any child who ever
participated in the exciting competition, in short in my opinion it is both
Hogwarts specific and universal.

What I am trying to say here Shaun is that while nobody is arguing with you that
Hogwarts is based on English Boarding school model in general, I would certainly
disagree with you that every particular detail that is in place or was ever in
place in English boarding school should apply to Hogwarts.

I really have no problem to acknowledge the possibility that Hogwarts has
regulations about hairclips and/or hairstyles. It does not mean I have to agree
with it, but eh if canon for interpetation is shown, why not? For example I
certainly disagreed that Dumbledore for example asked Snape to kill him before
DH came out (HAHA).
However, I definitely acknowledged the possibility of it, because the pieces
were all there in canon, I just interpeted them differently and incorrectly.

To see where you are coming from I really do not need many real life schools
regulations about hair. One would suffice from canon.

JMO,

Alla










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