Sadism or not ? McGonagall and her punishments
a_svirn
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Tue May 26 12:57:02 UTC 2009
No: HPFGUIDX 186760
> Sheryll again:
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> It's not at all an inclusive list. I see no mention of undergarments (which I'll agree wouldn't be regulated)
a_svirn:
Exactly. If they aren't regulated there is no need to include them into the list headlined "Uniform".
> Sheryll
or shoes, which I think would have *some* guidelines. I think it's safe to assume they don't go barefoot, so they are required to bring shoes. I also think it's safe to assume that the guidelines for everyday footwear don't include stiletto heels, which would be highly improper for classes like Herbology or Care of Magical Creatures.
a_svirn:
I am not sure it is a good example either. I can't see any parents buying their eleven year old daughter stilettos. But a pretty butterfly hairclip? Why not? As I said, if there are hair and hair accessories regulation in a given school, parents need to know about them *before* they send their kid there.
> Sheryll:
> So JKR didn't draft a student handbook for us to read. I think it's safe to say something of the sort exists, either written to be handed to the students on arrival or verbally provided by prefects.
a_svirn:
Not where uniforms are concerned. What were a perfect to do if all my hair accessories turned out to be not acceptable? Punish me every time I wore them? And scold me for being untidy every time I did not wear them? I guess in Hogwarts they could practice transfiguration on them, but still wouldn't it be more reasonable to include things like that in the list of uniform requirements?
> Sheryll:
> The point of my mentioning students bathing isn't to point out that personal hygiene items aren't on the list but to point out that there are lots of things that JKR simply doesn't write about.
a_svirn:
However, she did write about Hogwarts uniform requirements. She specifically devised a list of them.
> Sheryll:
> While it's fine to say that they were provided with a list of what to bring, I don't think it's also possible to extrapolate that these are the only items that are part of their uniforms.
a_svirn:
I think it is possible. Even necessary. I would certainly be more than a little miffed if I didn't buy for my kid something that is required or, alternatively, bought something that specifically forbidden by the school rules, only because the administration didn't bother to list it together with other requirements.
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