CHAPTER DISCUSSION PS/SS 10, THE HALLOWEEN

dumbledore11214 dumbledore11214 at yahoo.com
Mon Nov 9 03:57:17 UTC 2009


No: HPFGUIDX 188380



> Potioncat:
> Let's look at some Slytherins in challenging situations.
> 
> Regulus didn't secure his safety; he secured Kreacher's. I just wish he had been clever enough to say to Kreacher, "Get *us* out of here." 

Alla:

Yes, me too :(


Potioncat: 
> Slughorn was protecting himself for several years, even through Snape's term as Headmaster, but once he decided to take a stand, he came back with reinforcements and fought with no special protection for himself. 

Alla:

Yes, but this is not quite what I am talking about though. Whom was Slughorn saving here? I mean, I know I know he was contributing to defeat of Voldemort, but initially I was looking for much more direct comparison to what Harry and Ron did for Hermione. My point is that no Slytherin would go save a person in danger **that very second**, even if there is no time to come up with the plan. IMO Slughorn is not nearly in that situation. I agree that Snape was in that situation for Harry, but as I said I do consider Snape an exception and I guess we disagree here.


Potioncat:
> I've come to think that we aren't supposed to see Snape as an exception. He may be exceptional, but not an exception.

Alla:

We have to agree to disagree here then :-)


Potioncat:
>  And we do have our own stereotype of the Houses. Just as in RL we may have certain sterotypes of cheerleaders, football players or A+ Math students.

Alla:

We do? I did not grew up in the US as you know, but based on movies I guess the stereotypes are that cheerleaders and football players are all stupid  and only know how to play sports? And A+ math students have no clue how to play sports?

But I mean, nobody would think this seriously, right? Everybody knows that those are silly stereotypes and people who play sports well can also be talented in many other subjects and vice versa?

And even if a lot of people are engaging in these stereotypes (seriously, please do not count me among those people lol), I would still say that those are a very long way to go to the idea that cheerleaders and football players should be in their own house and A+ math students in their own and they just cannot be also ambitious and hardworking.

JMO,

Alla






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