[HPforGrownups] Re: Legilimency v. Occlumency

[Christy]

No: HPFGUIDX 188024

I totally agree with Carol's well-reasoned responses, as well as her sign-off. However, I'm more inclined to believe that the other memories Snape removed were the ones associated with the prophecy (hearing it in the Hogs Head and then relating it to Voldemort).




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Subject: [HPforGrownups] Re: Legilimency v. Occlumency

  
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Carol again:
Harry's ineptitude at Occlumency wasn't the point of Snape's removing those memories. (He'd need to be good at *Legilimency* to see them deliberately. ) Snape probably anticipated Harry's using a Protego (Shield Charm), either accidentally or deliberately, which would backfire on the caster of the Legilimens spell (Snape) and release random memories, which is exactly what happened when Harry saw Severus as a small child cowering in fear as his father yelled at his mother, a somewhat older Severus riding a bucking broom, and a teenage Severus killing flies. Snape clearly didn't want Harry to see SWM and two other memories (probably of his going to Dumbledore for help or promising to protect Harry--he hadn't yet agreed to kill Dumbledore or saved his life). Whether he was protecting his cover from Voldemort or simply didn't want Harry to know his true motivation (love of Lily) is unclear, but, either way, he was protecting those particular memories from
 accidentally being revealed. (I know that other people have other theories, but I'm convinced that mine is correct and that it's supported by the text.) 

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Carol responds:
I don't think so. He doesn't really trust anybody, but he comes close to trusting Snape. And he says that he "regrets" killing Snape, which may be true in the sense that he's killing what he views as a loyal and highly competent DE (no personal regret as in affection for Snape, of course). He simply thinks that once he's killed Harry, he will have won the war and that sacrificing this skilled and intelligent "servant" will enable him to do that. He no longer needs Snape as a spy, and he can always find another DE headmaster for Hogwarts. It's not that he distrusts him; Snape, after all, killed Dumbledore, supposedly on LV's orders. It's just that, in LV's view, he's expendable.

Carol, wishing that Snape had managed to talk to Harry at Hogwarts instead of being thwarted by McGonagall and forced to fly from the school
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