[HPforGrownups] Re: Wizarding Top Ten

[Kemper]

No: HPFGUIDX 188033

> Pippin:
> Why do you suppose they wouldn't consent? The goal was not to protect their peace of mind, it was to save them from ending up like the Longbottoms, powerful wizards mind you, but no match for the Death Eaters who tortured them into insanity. It's not a question of treating them like ickle Muggles who can't protect themselves.

> Joey:
> My POV too.
> Hermione is a Muggle-born and has been taunted for that by the Malfoys multiple times. She is the one who has been encouraging house-elves to fight for their rights. So, I don't think she would treat her own parents or anybody for that matter in a patronizing / condescending fashion when it comes to their capabilities / rights.

Kemper now:
It would be out of character for Hermione to get permission from her
parents.  She assumes she knows best.  She deliberately takes away the
choice of people and other sentient beings.

In CS, she essentially slips ruffies in two plump chocolate cakes:
'"I've filled these with a simple Sleeping Draught. All you have to do
is make sure Crabbe and Goyle find them.... Once they're asleep pull
out a few of their hairs [violate them] and hide them in a broom
closet."
[Ron and Harry both make attempts questioning this act]
No, it's not rape, but it's still a violation.

In OP, she curses the Dumbledore's Army enlistment form without
telling the signers that it's cursed. Taking away their informed
consent.
In OP, she hides hats and socks everywhere in the Gryffindor Tower in
a ruse to free the House Elves who find the attempt 'insulting' and
none of them will clean the tower anymore.

...and To Pippin's question:
 Why do you suppose they wouldn't consent?

Because it's not in her character to ask for consent.
She has come up with a decent plan.  Change identities and move to
Australia.  She's a brilliant witch.  She can make that happen.  We
haven't met DE's from other continents.  It's reasonable to assume
TDL's reach to Australia is very limited.  Her parents could
reasonably stay and live there and love and worry and pray(?) and hope
for their daughter.

> Joey
> As for the consent from her parents, I agree with the earlier posts - it could have been either way - the canon does not give any definite information. And, in any case, I would think it was an act done out of care.

Kemper now:
Canon gives very clear evidence of Hermione's lack of concern in
attaining consent.
It was an abusive act done out of selfishness.  It was a perversion of love.
It was not an act of love.

Kemper