Hermione and her parents Redux WAS: Re: Wizarding Top Ten

[montavilla47]

No: HPFGUIDX 188198

> Alla:
> I do not think that we need to come up with every possible detail as to what exactly Hermione told them about Harry that may help Voldemort to catch them. I think that the umbrella of **told them a lot about Harry** covers a lot of things that we may not even guess that Voldemort will use against them.

Montavilla47:
I'm going to agree with you here.  I don't think we need
to question whether or not Hermione told them something
valuable.  Let's go ahead and assume that she did.

Alla: 
> Anything, any detail, any small fact can give DE a clue how to catch them IMO. And they will not care about Harry loving Ginny? Same as Voldemort did not care to use Sirius against Harry?
> 
> I think it will be perfect idea for them to use Ginny as a bait, IMO of course. But again, I do not think the list of what she told them is needed, as long as we know that she told them a lot, that to me **already** a reason to say that yes, her parents can be used against her and Harry.
> 

Montavilla47:
Now that's an excellent thing they could use.  Not that 
they do--since the *entire* school was talking about 
Ginny and Harry in HBP (K-I-S-S-I-N-G).  They didn't
need to ask the Grangers about that.  Draco could have 
told them.  And, if he felt reluctant about endangering
a fellow student, then I'm sure Pansy Parkinson would 
have been delighted to pass on school gossip to either
one of the Professors Carrow.

But you know what?  They didn't even ask.  All those
students who spent months and months with Harry
Potter for six whole years.  Including the two who 
slept in the same room with him.

But, you're right.  We don't need to know what the 
DE's might have wanted from the Grangers that they
didn't think they could get from the Weasleys or the 
hundreds of other students at Hogwarts.  It's enough
to know that Hermione thought they knew something
important and that Voldemort might want to question
them about it.

Alla:
> Just as I think that DE having trouble finding  and using Muggle camera to fake Hermione's kidnapping is not a reason to discard the possibility that they will do so. We know that Voldemort was very resourceful in the first war to put discord and enmity to murder people (even if we did not see much of such resourcefulness lol). I think that it is very very possible that DE will figure out to use muggle camera, because what they have to do with it is so important for them.

Montavilla47:
I don't think it's very likely, since people like Arthur--
who loves Muggle inventions--are terrible at figuring
out what they do and how to work them.  

More importantly, it's completely outside the actual story. 
So, to make that possibility an important part of Hermione's 
thought process is to bring in something irrelevant.

Alla:
> It is as if somebody would tell me that if I would be given a chance to visit a bookstore and would be given a great book for free, but to get this book I will have to learn how to, I don't know, knit. Trust me, I will do my best to learn, it is not rocket science. I would think to get Harry DE would learn how to use muggle camera if needed.
> 

Montavilla47:
It's more like someone were to ask you to knit in a very
specific style--in symbols that can only be understood 
by the people who regularly use those stitches.

Knitting isn't rocket science, but someone who 
deals with knitwork on a regular basis would know in 
an instant if you tried to fake an authentic folkstyle.

Continuing with that analogy of the Grangers
as a book that the Death Eaters would want to read,
Hermione has changed all the type to invisible ink, 
I suppose.  Now, there are a limited number of 
invisible inks and those who are trained to detect them
would certainly try their best to bring the words back
and probably would succeed.

And even if they didn't, they'd still tear out all the
pages trying.  

Which is what would happen to the Grangers if they
were found--regardless of whether or not Hermione
non-Memory-Charmed them.