Hermione and her parents Redux ...

[bboyminn]

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---  "justcarol67" <justcarol67 at ...> wrote:
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> Montavilla 47:
> > But, you're right. We don't need to know what the DE's might have wanted from the Grangers that they didn't think they could get from the Weasleys or the hundreds of other students at Hogwarts.  It's enough to know that Hermione thought they knew something important and that Voldemort might want to question them about it.
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> Carol:
> I disagree. It's enough to know that Hermione thought that they might be tortured and needed protection--and up to that point I think that she's correct even though I doubt that either the DEs or Voldemort would expect to acquire any important information from a "Mud-Blood's" Muggle parents. They'd find other reasons to torture them.
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> But even supposing that she's right about the reasons for the torture, the question is whether memory modification, especially without their consent, is necessary and appropriate or a needless and inappropriate violation of their human rights. And that's where I think that Hermione crosses the line of acceptable behavior toward Muggles in general and her parents in particular.
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bboyminn:

Sorry, I'm sort of jumping into the middle of this conversation,
so if my comments have already been said...sorry.

It is well known that Hermione and Ron are close friends with
Harry. So, Hermione's parents might have been killed or tortured
out of pure vindictiveness. The Death Eaters might have sought
them out for no reason other than to punish Hermione for 
associating with Harry, and to torment Harry by extension.

The same is true of the Weasleys. At some point had the war
gone on; the Weasley's might have been killed simply because
they were too close to Harry. Though killing off another
pureblood family would not be as appealing to them. 

DE's aren't the most logical or rational people. They don't 
need much of an excuse to go after muggles. However, it is
hard to go after them if they can't find them. Now certainly
if the war had gone on for years, they could have gradually
gathered the resources necessary to track the Grangers down, 
but that is a lot of energy and resources simply to punish
Hermione and Harry. The mere threat to do so, would have
nearly the same effect as actually doing so, and in a long
war, might even lead Harry and/or Heriome to rush to the
Granger's rescue, thereby giving away their location. 

Lastly, I'm inclined to agree that we don't know what the pre-
conversation was like between the Grangers. Hermione might 
have explained everything, or she may have acted purely on her
own. Both are possible, but I don't think we can rule out either.
Hermione may have indeed had her parents permission to protect
them. There may have even been some secondary unrevealed
aspect that would allow Hermione to find them more easily when
the time came.

Though, there are some other holes that seem not to have been
plugged in this whole plan. Don't you need a passport to get
into Australia? Did Hermione charm their passports to change 
the name? How did she get visa for those fake passports? 

How were Mr. and Mrs. Ganger suppose to make a living in
Australia? There certifications a Dentists would be under
their original names, did Hermione fake that documentation too. 
And fake documentation is one thing, but what if someone in
Australia checked their references and the school of Dentistry
never heard of them under their new names?

A lot of loopholes indeed. Unless they got a visa, and worked
as common labor, maybe as a waiter and waitress or something
similar. Thereby earning just enough money to get by on until
Hermione could come and get them. But visas expire. If 
Hermione were killed or imprisoned, then it would be years, 
decades, or never before Hermione came for them. Perhaps
Australia and the UK are so closely tied that Visas and
so forth are not really a problem. 

But, if you dig beneath the surface, there are a lot of details
that seem unresolved, only the least of these is if and why
the DE's would go after them. 

Just a few thoughts.

Steve/bboyminn