[HPforGrownups] Re: Prophecy / Umbridge's quill and Harry's fist / Dementors / Sectumsempra

[robert cox]

No: HPFGUIDX 187688

> Carol wrote in
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/187595>:
> << How would anyone except the students (only two that we
know of, Harry and Lee Jordan) know about the quill that used
their own blood to write lines? >>
>
catlady_de_los_ angeles:
> <snip>... it seems to me that Lee Jordan is more outgoing
and less secretive than Harry. Even if he and the Twins keep
some secrets from each other, I don't know a reason why he
wouldn't tell Fred and George, and maybe a number of lesser
friends, about Umbridge's quill. <snip>
>
> Carol wrote in
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/187631>:
> << the raised fist is just one more instance of the
miscommunication motif that appears in all the books >>
>
catlady_de_los_ angeles:
> It never occurred to me as a reader that Scrimgeour
didn't correctly understand Harry's fist, until you said
so. <snip> If she intended that Scrimgeour understood, as
does the reader, that Harry's fist meant: "Remember what
Umbridge did to me", then we allow as how Scrimgeour
somehow knew about Umbridge's quill and kept her on anyway.
I don't think it's so hard to believe that word got around
> starting from Lee Jordan. <snip>

 
Bob:
If you all check the DH and HBP, you will see that the
scar Harry hands still stands out and then really stands
out when he is angry and has balled his hand up.  Also a
lot of students and teachers must have seen Harry's hand;
I think that JKR wants the reader to see and think in some
cases for themselves to add to the story.  Don't forget
that like school today the true and stories of teachers
and followers students get told and other heard and talked
about. And OTP does state that Umbridge did punish other
students (lets face it, the woman hates kids and anyone
that does not agree with her and she trusts no one). Also
Harry did not tell anyone while she was in power because
he did not want to cause trouble for his teachers but after
she was dismissed I bet that there was a rush to tell the
teachers by all how were punished.