Son of son of son of chapter 4 discussion...

justcarol67 justcarol67 at yahoo.com
Tue Sep 29 17:14:18 UTC 2009


No: HPFGUIDX 187870

Carol earlier:
> > << Regardless of what JKR said off the top of her head in an interview, I can't imagine Voldemort or the DEs in general attempting to recruit Lily. Not only is she Muggle-born, she's adamantly opposed to Dark magic and DEs. ... he knew, thanks to Wormtail, that they were both members of the Order. (Merely joining the Order may constitute defying him once.)>>
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sderberg_jenny responded:
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> I don't think Voldemort was going to recruit Lily as a death-eater, as much as planning to put her under Imperius. We know she was gifted with charms, and from HBP it is plausible to presume that she was also good with potions.

Carol responded:

Possibly, but I don't think it's likely. He certainly didn't need Lily to make potions given that he had the potions genius Snape, and the only indication we have that Lily is good at charms is Ollivander's remark that her first wand was "a nice wand for charm work," which LV didn't know about. His complete indifference toward her ("move aside, silly girl!") indicates to me that she was nothing more to him than the woman Snape desired, whom he had agreed to spare if she didn't try to fight him, and the Prophecy boy's "Muggle" mother. He doesn't address her by name (only as "silly girl") or indicate any respect for her powers, only contempt for her carelessness (and James's) in trusting a friend (Wormtail) and setting aside her wand. In the DH memory, the narrator, from LV's perspective, refers to James Potter by name four times but refers to Lily (even though he knows her name, which James uses before he dies) only as "the mother" and "she."

Even if he knew of her talents, which he apparently didn't, he would have disregarded or denied them because in his eyes she was just a "Muggle," and in any case, he didn't need her. He had the brilliant and multi-talented Snape, who could not only make any known potion and improve on it but invent his own charms and hexes. Granted, he seems to have used Snape mostly as a spy, but it seems inconceivable to me that Snape didn't make a potion or two as well.

At any rate, we have no canon and not even an interview to indicate that LV planned to put Lily under the Imperius Curse. He may have assumed that Snape would do so after LV killed Lily's son and husband, but it was apparently a matter of no concern to him (as long as Snape didn't actually marry the "Muggle" and contaminate his bloodline).

Carol, wishing that JKR had refused to be interviewed without being allowed to consult her own books first






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