[HPforGrownups] Re: DD's plan -- Minister of Magic

[k12listmomma]

No: HPFGUIDX 189154

> Eric:
>> Before I did _anything,_ I'd want to make sure that the people in
>> question were guilty.  Why they didn't even try to question Black
>> (make sure he wasn't under the Imperius or otherwise magically
>> controlled, wait till all possible antidotes were out of his system
>> and then dose him with Veritaserum and question him, get a Penseive)
>> is utterly beyond me.
> <SNIP>
>
> Alla:
> Problem is though that everybody including Dumbledore was absolutely, 
> positively sure that he was guilty as hell, no? I would totally support 
> your argument if we could be absolutely sure that they are guilty. I just 
> do not think that any system of justice including WW one allows for 
> somebody to be absolutely sure.
>
> If one is willing to allow for mistake of executing innocent people to be 
> made, then sure, but I do not think it should be that way.
>
> By the way, I am not even making an argument against the death penalty in 
> the books and/or in RL, even though I am against it for this very reason, 
> I was under impression that you were suggesting to execute them as the 
> preventive measure, look what we will do to you, etc. If WW court decided 
> that they deserved execution from the beginning that would be less 
> problematic to me (even though there is still a possibility of mistake), 
> but not when they were sentenced to prison and now, oops, we decide to 
> kill you because we can.


Shelley now:
But it wouldn't be "oops, we decide to kill you because we can"- the 
previous prison sentence was for previous support of Voldemort. The current 
death sentence would be for CURRENT support of Voldemort. Once it was clear 
that he was about to gain power again, the message could be sent that "this 
time", there was no leniency, no tolerance. You could Veritasersum all 
suspected still loyal Death Eaters and ask them "Are you still loyal to 
Voldemort, under penalty of Death under the current law?" and if they answer 
YES, the execution or Kiss from a Dementor would be carried out immediately. 
Yes, execution of the Death Eaters before they had the chance to return to 
Voldemort would be a preventative measure, but it could be done as a current 
measure and not a punishment for previous crimes.