List of threats (was Snape and Harry and expulsion WAS: Re: CHAPTER

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> Potioncat:
> I'll start a list from your post, tossing in any comments about being expelled by other characters.
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> CoS
> -MoM informs Harry he is at risk of expulsion
> -Whomping Willow Chapter, Snape threatens
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Alla:

Well, I am going to bookmark your post, it will save me some time for sure heee. I am also thinking that hopefully I can cross out CoS from my list since I am rereading it now for chapter discussions.

So here is not quite threat of expulsion, but something that makes me even more confused, come to think of it, from Writing on the Wall.

Remember when Mrs. Norris is petrified? Of course we do.


So, "Much as he detested Filch, Harry couldn't help feeling a bit sorry for him, though not nearly as sorry as he felt for himself. If Dumbledore believed Filch, he would be expelled for sure. - p.142, paperback

Alla:

So Harry seems to believe that killing of the cat (does not know yet that she is petrified) is worthy of expulsion, yes?

I wish what for sure means here, that he read it in the book or made up, but I digress.

Comes Snape dear, on page 143 he says among other things that "Potter and his friends may have simply been in the wrong place at the wrong time," he said with slight sneer curling his mouth as though he doubted it. "but we do have a set of suspicious circumstances here. Why was he in the upstairs corridor at all? Why wasn't he at the Halloween feast?" 


And then on page 144 he suggests to Dumbledore that Harry is not being entirely truthful and 'It might be a good idea if he were deprived of certain personal privileges untill he is ready to tell us the whole story. I personally feel he should be taken off the Gryffindor Quidditch team until he is ready to be honest" 

And Dumbledore disagrees so here is what I am thinking.

On one hand it seems to be another evidence that Snape really does not want Harry expelled, I mean he is just suggesting to take him off the team, right? But on the other hand, his own words, that he knows that Potter and friends may have been in the wrong place and the wrong time (as they were) suggests to me that ANY punishment here is  not applicable. As Dumbledore says innocent till proven guilty, so Snape does want Harry punished when no punishment is warranted.

So what am I getting at? Simple, if we are saying that Snape is bluffing, well, to me this is the inclination that Snape is always willing to bluff the "other way", to paint Harry's situation and what he did as much worse, not better, thus I just do not see him bluffing to make sure Harry stays in school instead of getting punished. Makes sense or not really?

But then again he does not bring expulsion here, maybe I should just make myself agree that Snape does not want that punishment for Harry. Goodness knows this fits in the picture I have of Snape much better.

Alla