Lily and Snape/Loving couples in canon

[dumbledore11214]

No: HPFGUIDX 188677


> > Alla:
> > 
> > Wait, I do not think that what you are saying is that the only real love shown in canon is the love of the jerk or somebody who shows no insight or consideration in other character's feelings?
> 
> Pippin:
> Correct, that is not what I am saying. 

Alla:

Good to know, thank you :)

Pippin:
I am saying that in canon the ability to love is unrelated to the ability to have insight into people's feelings or treat  them with consideration when you'd rather do otherwise. 

Alla:

Well, I guess I cannot completely agree with this statement either. I suppose I partially agree, but I thought in the examples I brought up those couples were considerate to each other in quite a few situations and in love too. I would say that when it is portrayed that people love somebody but cannot treat them with consideration, it is shown that those people need to grow up maybe? I mean, I certainly agree that it does not necessarily mean that their love is any less real, whatever meaning one puts into it, just less mature maybe?

Pippin:
Lupin, for example, shows great insight and consideration towards Neville, and I don't think he's being manipulative, but I don't think that means  Lupin loves Neville more than he loves Tonks or his unborn child. 

Alla:

To me it says that Lupin's love of teacher for his student was more mature for quite some time than his love for Tonks. Well, we all know that he loves Sirius more than anybody else anyway, so it is not surprising (kidding).

Don't we agree that at least in author's view Harry's lecture towards him is completely justified and what Harry (and author) wanted him to do is to go back to Tonks and be a good father and husband first and foremost?

So, yes, absolutely to me it means that untill Lupin learned to place Tonks' and his baby interests above his own ( even if it means helping Harry to save the world, but whatever, now I am not talking about how justified or not justified that is IMO), author was saying that his love was not as mature as she wanted him to be.

JMO,

Alla