Forgiveness

[sistermagpie at earthlink.net]

No: HPFGUIDX 188696

> > Kemper now:
> > I don't see this as forgiveness.  He needs his Death Eaters to be more powerful and scary.  He rescues Bella because his other Death Eaters have been caught and so has lost supporters which make him less powerful and scary.  It's calculating not forgiving which makes Harry's suggestion of remorse still laughable.
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> Pippin:
> Ah, but V2 isn't as calculating as V1. That was one of the big shocks in DH. We were expecting to find the WW in the hands of a cold, calculating supervillain, but V2 has impulse control problems that V1 never had. 

Magpie:
I don't see any big difference at all between V1 and V2--or even that there is a V1 and V2. He's just described as being a big bad guy who's unstoppable to make him scary. He's supposed to be just as scary now, he just naturally doesn't come across that way because Harry has to beat him. Did every single DE also change between the two wars? Because they're not half as scary or competent or in control of themselves as they were in the first war either.

There is nothing in Voldemort's character as written that says he wasn't always a drama queen who would have loved rewarding people or keeping them around based on his own whims.

Pippin:
I don't have to make up Voldemort's past. We see quite a bit of it, in
Diary!Riddle, in Gof prior to his rebirth, in the memories Dumbledore
collected, and in the flashback in DH.The Voldemort of the past trusted no one, never got angry, felt no emotional
connection to his Death Eaters, and left Quirrell to die when Quirrell failed him, though I see no reason Quirrell couldn't still have been as useful as Peter was.

Magpie:
Yes, you are making up his past in order to contrast it with things you're claiming are OOC for him. I'm not looking at the guy in any of those memories and not seeing the same guy as continued all the way through GoF. That he doesn't get angry when things are going well for him and he feels victorious does not make it OOC for him to get angry when things aren't going well for him and gets beaten by a baby. He shows not emotional connection to his DEs in the whole of the series. There's plenty of DEs that could have been as useful to him as Peter was post-GoF that Voldemort murders. He wouldn't be scary if he was that predictable. Sometimes he Crucios, sometimes he refrains, sometimes he kills, sometimes he doesn't. He always put on shows of people being his favorites, that's why they competed amongst themselves. 

It's why he would, even in the first war, do something like offer Lily the chance to live.

-m