[HPforGrownups] Re: Forgiveness

Bart Lidofsky bart at moosewise.com
Sun Jan 3 21:39:37 UTC 2010


No: HPFGUIDX 188706

k12listmomma wrote:
> I will give you this: the murder of the animal is the most telling of any 
> incident- the killing without remorse. His first recorded murder. Still, the 
> murder of an animal, the actions of a bully, are still a conscience choice 
> one makes. I don't buy the line of a psychopath being unable to feel sorry 
> for the things he has done.
>   
Bart:
    OK, here's Hare's Checklist:

Factor 1: Personality "Aggressive Narcissism"
    * Glibness/superficial charm
    * Grandiose sense of self-worth
    * Pathological lying
    * Conning/manipulative
    * Lack of remorse or guilt
    * Shallow affect
    * Callous/lack of empathy
    * Failure to accept responsibility for own actions

I would say that Morty and young Riddle exhibit all of the above; it 
might be an interesting project to go through the canon and find 
specific references; is there a decent concordance available, by the way?

Now, for factor 2, Case History, "Socially Deviant Lifestyle". Not quite 
as clearcut, but close:

    * Need for stimulation/proneness to boredom (note by Bart: could 
have been caused by a lack of a body)
    * Parasitic lifestyle
    * Poor behavioral control (note by Bart: other literature points out 
that they hide it very well)
    * Promiscuous sexual behavior (note by Bart: as far as one can tell 
from canon, nobody has sex in the WW; children might well be produced by 
spells. Well, it's hinted that Arthur and Molly might have sex.).
    * Lack of realistic, long-term goals (Bart: Note the word, 
"realistic").
    * Impulsivity
    * Irresponsibility
    * Juvenile delinquency
    * Early behavior problems
    * Revocation of conditional release

Finally, let's look at the final two traits:
Traits not correlated with either factor

    * Many short-term marital relationships (Bart: OK, that didn't 
happen as far as we know)
    * Criminal versatility

    What happened, not unlike what happened with Adolph Hitler, was that 
Morty found a bunch of people who would actually go along with his 
mental illness, which enabled him to continue where most psychopaths 
stick to smaller, more personal crimes.

    Bart






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