Harry, Snape and Dementors WAS: Re: CHAPTER Chamber of Secrets Chapter 18:

dumbledore11214 dumbledore11214 at yahoo.com
Wed Jun 16 11:36:38 UTC 2010


No: HPFGUIDX 189344



> Nikkalmati
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> Are you suggesting Harry should not be interested in learning something new?
> You seem to be forgetting the other arguments:  1. Only the Order knew about Patronuses.  2. A Patronus is very hard to conjure for most wizards and beyond this year level. 3. Snape can't teach it because he con't or won't let people see his Patronus.

Alla:

Well,no. I am not forgetting them. They are just irrelevant to what I am arguing. What I am arguing is not that Snape should not have been teaching his mysterious method to the class if it truly worked. And I am going to go on a lymb and assume that it did for the sake of the argument even though it is not shown anywhere in the book, so it is a pretty big limb for me.

What I AM saying however that Snape should not have ever graded Harry, one student who used the other method that worked for sure and achieved the same results. Unless of course that great wizard did not know that such method existed, Harry's method I mean. Then I cannot call him a knowledgeable wizard at all, if he was surprised by Harry's method.


> Alla 
> > I know I would choose the results of experiment that I conducted myself rather than what teacher would say should work and I would definitely insist on the highest grade for myself if this achieves the result teacher seeks.
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> Nikkalmati
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> Note this method was not Harry's idea or the result of his experimentation.  He learned it from Lupin who learned it from DD.

Alla:

Sure, my analogy is not perfect, but for me it was close enough.



Nikkalmati: 
> This is a pretty modern idea you have here.  Back in my day (a long, long time ago, but not time out of mind) a student would not expect a higher grade for doing something other than what he or she was taught. Originality was fine in its place, but not in the classroom.  I don't say that is the best way; I just wanted you to be aware that things used to be different.


Alla:

You know, my time in school was not yesterday either. I definitely think though that while some educational methods are very useful no mattert what year we are in, some are definitely deserving to be left in the past and never spoken of. And I am not talking about this one specifically.





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