CHAPTER DISCUSSION: COS 14, Cornelius Fudge

pippin_999 foxmoth at qnet.com
Sat May 1 18:36:11 UTC 2010


No: HPFGUIDX 189190



--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "dumbledore11214" <dumbledore11214 at ...> wrote:
 . Pippin I said nothing about agreeing with Malfoy's philosophy, I said I was cheering him on while knowing he was not in the slightest way concerned for Muggleborns. I certainly thought that Dumbledore was saying all the right words in that regard, but no I do not think he acted to protect those who least able to protect themselves. I certainly think that Katie Bell and Ron were least able to protect themselves than Draco Malfoy. 

Pippin:
Could you explain that? 

Who was going to protect Draco from Voldemort if Dumbledore and Snape did not? Not only do Ron and Katy have friends who rush to their defense and save their lives, they have friends who would tell them they were idiotic to trust LV. Draco's friends don't say anything  like that -- they're awed and a little scared, but they don't think he's being rash or stupid. 

Ron also has a whole family who is willing to endanger itself in order to protect him from LV. Narcissa wants to protect Draco, but she's not going so far as to rebel against her master openly. 

There isn't any  way to oppose Voldemort and not create hostages to fortune. But I would rather say, if I had to, that I had lost a hostage child because I opposed Voldemort, than to say I had lost a hostage child because I didn't.

Likewise, of all the Order members, DH!Snape is the most defenseless. No one is going to come to his aid if Voldemort decides to kill him. Harry does not rush to save Snape as he rushed to save Arthur or Sirius.   If Dumbledore does not defend him, yes, by endangering other Order members if he must, then no one will.

And Alla, Dumbledore says nothing about placing Harry with the Dursleys so that he will love the WW more than them. 

Dumbledore gives two reasons only, one, so that Harry will not receive celebrity treatment, and two, so that Harry will be protected from Voldemort and his allies. If this was nonsense,  DADA experts like Mad-eye, Lupin and Shacklebolt would think they needed to guard Harry every moment while he was at the Dursleys. But no, they're certain that the DE's can't approach, even with Dumbledore gone. The only time Harry needed to be specially guarded at the Dursleys was when the Ministry, not allied with Voldemort at that time, was out to get him. 

Anyway, Voldemort hates Muggles just as much as he hates wizards, so Harry would have no reason to think that if he left the WW to Voldemort, Voldemort would be satisfied and the Muggle world would be safe. 

Nor does Dumbledore say anything about keeping Snape in pain so that Snape will serve him. In fact he's astonished by Snape's patronus. He had no idea that Snape was still acting for Lily's sake. 

Pippin








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