Voldemort's Intentions was Re: Why did Barty Crouch Jr join Voldemort?

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Pippin:
Don't we have his very own thoughts in DH? IIRC, he was planning what he was
going to do as he went towards Godric's Hollow, and telling himself that he
wasn't going to kill Lily unless she made trouble. There isn't much point in JKR
giving us Voldie's thoughts if they don't tell us what he's really thinking.

Voldemort was not under some compulsion to kill every Muggle and Muggleborn who
crossed his path, not if he had a use for them, and he had a use for Lily.


Alla:

Of course he was not under compulsion to kill every Muggle and Muggleborn who crossed his path. But him having use for Lily is actually news for me. What use did he have for her??? You mean giving her to Snape for his pleasures? If this is the use that he had for her, I am aware of his promise to Snape of course. Except as I said I do not remember his promise to Snape being conditional upon Lily causing trouble and he broke that, didn't he?

I vaguely, very vaguely remember his thoughts, so I am sure you are right, we do have them, except as I also mentioned before I am a very big advocate of taking characters' words, thoughts as truth in canon, because as you said why would JKR show them to us? Only Voldemorts thoughts and words for me is an exception to that, I will never take them as truth, unless collaborated by other witnesses. This is a creature who had deluded himself that he is deserving to rule over wizard kind that muggle borns are lesser beings, etc, etc, etc, why would I take anything he is thinking or saying as truth? It MAY be a truth, sure, I doubt that he meant to say lies all the time, but I think I have every reason to be skeptical about any of his thoughts.


Annemehr:

What Pippin said - and not only that, but it turned out that the fact LV was
going to let Lily live - that Lily really did make the choice - was the source
of the magical protection that Harry had.

Back in the day, when I and many others were still theorizing alternative
reasons for why the AK failed, I certainly believed Voldemort would have killed
Lily anyway. But now we know he wouldn't have.

Alla:

You are absolutely right, of course, if Lily did not have a choice the protection would not have worked, only for me this is not necessarily means that Voldemort was not going to kill her. The choice as I read it was over fight for her son's life or stand aside at that moment. It does not follow for me that after moment passed she would have still been alive.