Why did Barty Crouch Jr join Voldemort?

[justcarol67]

No: HPFGUIDX 189783

Alla wrote:
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> Lily was not going to die because Voldemort said so? The liar of all liars in the books was going to keep his word? I am just really not sure about that. Voldemort said a lot of things in the novels and we know that some of them were not true, and JKR herself said he was a liar. Why should we believe Voldemort? For all I know he wanted Lily to stand back simply because it would have been easier to kill Harry first and then to kill her.<SNIP>
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> June wrote:
> I agree with Alla. I doubt Voldemort had any intention at all of keeping Lily alive, not even for Snape who was the one to give Voldemort the information that led to the killing of the Potters. <snip>
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Carol responds:
If we consider the interviews as valid, JKR says otherwise. Unless Voldemort intended to keep his word, the love magic would not have worked. Lily *has* to trade her life for Harry's--a true sacrifice--or there's no love magic, only a double murder that LV intended all along.

Personally, I don't think Voldemort hated Lily. He merely held her in contempt as a "Muggle" ("your Muggle mother," Diary!Tom calls her in speaking to Harry). Her death was unnecessary (just like that of the little boy he decides not to kill on the way to the Potters'); he could simply have Stunned her when she refused to stand back. Had he done so, and kept his word, he could have killed Harry. The whole point of the scene is that she could have lived (as Voldemort says several times) but chose to die.

Other mothers died in the books and their children died along with them (the Muggle mother in DH, the McKinnon family, even, IIRC, a Goblin family in DH) because no love magic was involved and no promise was broken.

Carol, noting that in the flashback in DH, Voldemort debates with himself over killing Lily, indicating that he did *not* intend to kill her all along

Carol