Obviously guilty was Re: JKR/Oprah interview
dumbledore11214
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Sun Oct 10 23:39:10 UTC 2010
No: HPFGUIDX 189654
Pippin:
So?
Dumbledore knew that one of his trusted Order members had to be the spy. Sirius
and Lupin also believed that and wrongly suspected each other.
Peter was a trusted and handpicked fighter too. He was also trusted and
handpicked by James and Sirius, precisely because no one in their right mind
would guess that he was the Secret-keeper and Sirius wasn't.
Alla:
Yep, Peter was one too and that is my point too, that any leader of the small hand picked band of fighters (or leader of such group of any size, really) had a duty to investigate further, and yes, I think he owed such duty to ANY person under his command, including Peter.
And, if only he investigated more without taking on faith anything that happened on anybody's behalf *including supposedly dead Peter*, how many interesting things he could have uncovered.
He could not be sure that this is what have happened, he could not have been sure of what happened simply because we KNOW that this is not what happened.
I ranted more than once how much I despise the fact that Dumbledore gave testimony of Sirius "being a secret keeper", but of course this was only the small part of Dumbledore's mindset and the bigger problem, which yes I believe was Dumbledore himself.
Yeah, he was traumatized by his teenage love, which no I do not believe could be even closely analogized to Secret keeper situation, but even if it could (which is not my position at all), I think Dumbledore should have recused himself and actually go and occupy himself with the Ministry. This is the bizarre thing, I think he would not take the mantle he could have been very well suited to, but continued to micromanage with the order and giving the Hogwarts students the education not nearly close to what they needed.
Alla:
I do agree though that Dumbledore apparently wasn't the sort to have faith in
the goodness of his friends. Poor Lily and James probably sensed it from him and
no wonder to me that they could not trust him in turn.
Pippin:
Odd, then, that James trusted Dumbledore with, the I-cloak, his most precious
possession I think that James picked Sirius over Dumbledore because he knew
Dumbledore suspected Sirius and he wanted to prove to Dumbledore that Sirius
could be trusted. That would work even after the switch, as long as they stayed
safe and Dumbledore didn't know the switch had been made.
Alla:
Yeah, you could be right. I am just speculating of course, but I think yours and mine speculations fit equally well. Trusting one with the cloak, is not the same as trusting one with your and your son's lives, and we all know that Potters did not trust Dumbledore to appoint him Harry's guardian (not as if that stopped the bastard of course). And that trust with the cloak of course robbed James from ANY small chance he may have had to escape or to pass it to Lily and for her and Harry to escape instead of him.
IPippin:
Dumbledore definitely freed Hagrid on CoS. He also says he tried to free Hokey
and Morfin, although he was unsuccessful. There really is no reason for him to
lie about that. If he were going to lie, why not say that he did free them and
the Ministry hushed it up?
Alla:
I do not think Hagrid's and Sirius' situation can be compared if for no other reasons that Barty Sr. did not send Hagrid there, so I was not counting him. But sure if you are talking about any people who were sent to Azkaban, he helped to free Hagrid. Now, Hokey and Morfin, I would have counted sure, if I was just as convinced as you are that he did not lie. I think he definitely lie and what he did was to extract their memories and maybe (speculation) helped them to be dead instead. Why leave extra witnesses, if he was supposedly so worried that nobody should know about Voldie being Tom Riddle instead of shouting from the roof?
And yes, I am aware that canon does not say it.
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