Obviously guilty was Re: JKR/Oprah interview

[dumbledore11214]

No: HPFGUIDX 189658




> Pippin:
> Dumbledore had been investigating for a year. The result of his investigations was the conclusion that Sirius was the spy beyond a reasonable doubt and I think we can agree that the evidence supported that conclusion.   For Dumbledore to think  that Sirius deserved a higher standard of proof than ordinary people got because Sirius was his henchman would be unconscionable, IMO -- that's the morality of a mafioso, or a Malfoy. 

Alla:

Where did you get that he was investigating for a year after Peter's "death" whether Sirius was a murderer? I thought he reached his conclusion the very same day (or few hours later)after he heard of Godric Hollow.

And also where is the canon that a year passed when Dumbledore testified at that blasted "hearing" and gave "evidence" that Sirius was a secret keeper. No, I most definitely disagree with this assertion.

> 
> Alla: 
> <snip>
>  I think Dumbledore should have recused himself and actually go and occupy himself with the Ministry. This is the bizarre thing, I think he would not take the mantle he could have been very well suited to, but continued to micromanage with the order and giving the Hogwarts students the education not nearly close to what they needed.
> 
> 
> Pippin:
> Huh? You don't like the way Dumbledore exercises his authority and your solution is to give him *more* authority? Don't you see that he would have run the Ministry just as paternalistically as he ran Hogwarts and the Order? 

Alla:

Oh you are right of course - he will harm and hurt anything and anybody he leads, I just wanted him away from those he in my opinion harmed most visibly _ Potters family and their son, Sirius, all those men who agreed to fight under him. In other words yes, he will run the Ministry same way, but since I think that Ministry is most consists of evil bastards (yes, I know before you say so there was Amelia Bones and Arthur there, thus I am saying mostly), maybe this is what Ministry needed. In other words I consider Ministry's workers as a whole more evil or at least more susceptible to evil than Dumbledore so whenever he leads them, maybe it will do them some good, lol.


Pippin:
<SNIP>

> Epilogue!Harry does not want to be anything more, IMO. But Dumbledore did -- he never stopped wanting to be the noble wizard on the pedestal, and whether he was at Hogwarts or at the Ministry, he would have surrounded himself with people who thought that's what he was -- or worse, like Grindelwald, would cynically  pretend to. 

Alla:

I am not getting your point here, are you trying to prove to me that Harry is less susceptible to power corruption than Dumbledore? If this is so, there is no need, I know this lol.

> 
> > Alla:
> <snip> Trusting one with the cloak, is not the same as trusting one with your and your son's lives, and we all know that Potters did not trust Dumbledore to appoint him Harry's guardian (not as if that stopped the bastard of course).
> 
> Pippin:
> We all know that Lily refused to believe anything bad about Dumbledore. If she'd had her doubts, wouldn't she have wanted to know more about Dumbledore's  involvement with Grindelwald instead of dismissing the possibility?

Alla:

Possibly, however if she wanted to contradict James and insist that they should go with Dumbledore, do you think James would have argued with her? So maybe she had some doubts after all IMO.


Pippin: 
> However, Dumbledore at the time is somewhere upwards of 90, single, has no experience with small children and is already holding down three or four full time jobs. James and Lily would hardly expect him to raise Harry, and in fact Dumbledore was never Harry's primary caregiver at any time. Let me ask you, if Dumbledore was indeed wrong to place Harry with the Dursleys, and Sirius was unable to stand up to him about it, then how could Sirius have been a fit guardian for Harry?

Alla:

Funny, the way I remember it Dumbledore never gave him a chance to stand up to him, instead he committed his little conspiracy to kidnap by using his loyal servant, Hagrid. And still Sirius argued with him. Not enough,sure, but he *did*, this is more than ANY Member of the order did, ever, nobody ever questioned great Albus Dumbledore (Harry notwithstanding). So, no I do not think that means that Sirius is unfit guardian. Let's also not forget that Sirius was the only one who wanted Harry to know truth about the situation and thanks to whom only Harry at least learned something of what was happening. Again, he did allow himself to be stopped by that shrieking Harpy (Molly), but you know, since I do not think that Sirius was ever completely psychologically stable after he escaped Azkaban, I will cut him slack. I think, all things considering he did better by Harry than ANY of the adults did ever. And again before you say so yes I remember those horrible things he said to Harry in OOP. I am saying by comparison with any other adult.




> Pippin:
> Dumbledore can see through invisibility cloaks. What makes you think Voldemort can't?
> Harry certainly never tries to use it to sneak past him.

Alla:

Because there is no indication in canon that I remember?


JMO,

Alla