Obviously guilty was Re: JKR/Oprah interview

pippin_999 foxmoth at qnet.com
Thu Oct 14 00:26:37 UTC 2010


No: HPFGUIDX 189662


> > > Alla:
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> Of course I do remember that, but that to me really is not the same. As far as I remember nobody specifically suspected a spy of killing people, only about passing on information. 

Pippin:
Voldemort was not hunting James and Lily so that he could challenge them to a game of gobstones, LOL. Of course the spy was suspected of killing people. Sirius is outraged when Peter tries to claim that he didn't know what would happen. 

Anyway, The Order was not a bunch of schoolkids playing soldiers.  They  killed when they had to. Dumbledore says as much. So do Sirius and Lupin. As for Sirius, do I need to say that he had proved himself capable of murder when he was sixteen?

Did you not think of the spy when Lupin said they were being picked off one by one?

I'm sure  when the DE's had a chance to call in reinforcements Order members died, and Lupin was referring to that as well. But "one by one" sounds like ambushes and traps to me. So does Moody's description of how various Order members died.

> Alla:
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do we know for sure that Fudge even knew where Harry was spending his eleven years before it was revealed by Dumbledore?

Pippin:
Yes, Fudge mentions that the Ministry has always kept a close watch on Privet Drive. 
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> Alla:
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> Sorry, but Dumbledore claims that he is very very different from Harry. Yes, I know I have to be consistent and either believe him or not, but supposedly in the King's Cross he is dead, so maybe there is bigger chance that he is telling the truth lol. Dumbledore may have wanted to bring love in the world in a twisted way that he understands it (no friend, no significant other, no confidant, no trusted companion, NO family, what do you think he knows about the love by the way?), but he also wanted as you put it to "shine" while doing it, or as I put it to be worshipped and unquestionably followed, while he manipulated and twisted people's lives. To me it makes him very different from Harry

Pippin:
I think DD knows about love like a farmer could know everything about growing, selling and preparing apples without having  eaten one himself since he was eighteen years old. DD says that he loved his sister and his brother, and Harry, and since you have just proposed that he was telling the truth at King's Cross, we must believe him.

Yes, he is very different from Harry. He is much more selfish, but  I do not think that means he is only selfish, rather that he has a mixture of selfish and altruistic motives, like most people. 

And what I am trying to show here is that in the case of Sirius, implying that Dumbledore did so much twisting as you think requires quite a bit of backflip.

Pippin





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