Chapter Discussion: Prisoner of Azkaban Ch 16: Professor Trelawney's prediction

[Susan A]

No: HPFGUIDX 190211

Alla:
> > YAY. You are posting :). Okay, so if they were already there and 
> > I know we can't, but that means that you think that the events in 
> > the book in this episode happened the same way as in the "Medium 
> > that cannot be named"? At some point in time I actually thought 
> > that I got the time travel in PoA pretty well and that JKR 
> > explained it so well, but after not rereading the book for so 
> > much I think I am getting confused again. I think I may go dig up 
> > some old posts on this topic.

Bart: 
> OK, here's time travel 101: When you time travel into the past, you 
> cannot change anything in your own past, particularly the fact that 
> you had traveled back in time. However, you can do something that 
> appears to have changed the past as long as everything happens the 
> way you remembered it.

SSSusan:
Uh oh, I think the head-spinning is beginning again.  (Not blaming you, Bart, but sometimes the language of it just gets my brain synapses misfiring.)

And to answer your question, Alla, yes, I think TMWSNBN did a fine job with this.  It was just the visual representation of the text that I had needed in order to sort it out.  I never really could, simply from the words.  

Then again, those folks who readily understand TT might step forward and argue that Cuaron's film *didn't* handle it the same way the book did.  (And if they do, I'm screwed again....)


Bart:
> JKR, of course, broke the rule by having Harry save his own life, 
> because there is no explanation of what happened at the beginning 
> of the time loop; how Harry survived to go back to the past to save 
> himself. 
> But it's her story.

SSSusan:
*grabs head* Oh dear, it's definitely spinning again.  I wish I could wrap myself around this whole concept, and I will be forever grateful to those group members who tried so valiantly -- and slowly and patiently -- to explain it to me back in my early days at HPfGU.  But I'm definitely deficient in this particular kind of logical thinking.    

> > Siriusly Snapey Susan,
> > wondering if anybody's found my pitcher of margaritas around 
> > here....

Alla:
> Can I have one too? :)

SSSusan:
Absolutely!  I think I may need a couple at this point.

Siriusly Snapey Susan