Movie: Harry's Wand in the Forbidden Forest and Big-V's Death

[nikkalmati]

No: HPFGUIDX 191135



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> > I see Harry must go willingly in order to make himself a sacrifice but then how does his sacrifice affect anything?  Ok, the Horcrux is destroyed and the spells cast by LV after he returns are weaker but is that all Harry's sacrifice achieves?  In the end he has to come back to life and let LV kill himself all over again.  And what about the blood protection?  Is that what brings Harry back?  What about the mastery of the Elder Wand?  Did that just mean the wand comes to Harry when called?  I think the book itself confused the issue of sacrifice and we are just reading it as what should be there, if it had been properly worked out.
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> Niru:
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> Maybe I'm missing something but I don't think the book confused the sacrifice issue. There Harry willingly offers his life both as a way to destroy the Horcrux in him (and as he sees it, himself) and to protect the others. He does not want anyone else to die knowing that it is in his power to stop it. Even though he doesn't actually die, it is the intent that matters. And it is THAT intent which extends protection to all the other people fighting. >

Nikkalmati

I know that is what supposedly happens and that is what Harry says to LV. but there is still plenty of fighting going on after Harry's sacrifice.  Do you think Molly was protected from Bella and was in no actual danger in the Great Hall?  Notice LV was fighting and holding off  McGonagall, Kingsley, and Slughorn in the Great Hall.  Just before Harry reveals himself LV sent these three "blasted backward, flailing and writhing through thr air" [p737 US hardback ed] and Harry sends up a Shield Charm to protect Molly from LV. When Harry says "you can't torture them.  You can't touch them [p738]", I can't accept that because that is not what I have been seeing and that is not how Harry is acting. Not consistent. 

Nikkalmati