Movie: Harry's Wand in the Forbidden Forest and Big-V's Death

[Geoff]

No: HPFGUIDX 191138

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "nikkalmati" <puduhepa98 at ...> wrote:

Nikkalmati
> 
> I know that is what supposedly happens and that is what Harry says to LV. but there is still plenty of fighting going on after Harry's sacrifice.  Do you think Molly was protected from Bella and was in no actual danger in the Great Hall?  Notice LV was fighting and holding off  McGonagall, Kingsley, and Slughorn in the Great Hall.  Just before Harry reveals himself LV sent these three "blasted backward, flailing and writhing through thr air" [p737 US hardback ed] and Harry sends up a Shield Charm to protect Molly from LV. When Harry says "you can't torture them.  You can't touch them [p738]", I can't accept that because that is not what I have been seeing and that is not how Harry is acting. Not consistent. 

Geoff:
May I quote the whole of the section you mention because I think that perhaps 
it sheds a slightly different light:

'"You won't be killing anyone else tonight," said Harry as they circled and 
stared into each other's eyes, green into red. "You won't be able to kill any 
of them, ever again. Don't you get it? I was ready to die to stop you hurting 
these people-"

"But you did not!"

"-I meant to and that's what did it. I've done what my mother did. They're 
protected from you. Haven't you noticed how none of the spells you put on 
them are binding? You can't torture them. You can't touch them. You don't 
learn from your mistakes, Riddle, do you?"'

(DH "The Flaw in the Plan" p.591 UK edition)

I read this as being the situation after King's Cross. Effectively, Harry is saying 
that after he did what his mother did, Voldemort's power has been affected. 
This 'you can't touch them' is a future thing - it is now the new order of things. 
Take your instance of McGonagall, Slughorn and Shacklebolt being thrown 
through the air. Although it speaks of flailing and writhing; it does not say 
in agony. This is what anyone in that situation would do reflexively. We know 
that Voldemort did this in absolute fury and I would expect him to have 
attempted an Avada Kedavra. But we know  by p.596 of the UK edition that 
at least two of them are able to join wholeheartedly in the wave of 
celebration after the duel is over, having suffered little or no after effects.