My take on the Forest scene (also posted on Movie)

[Steve]

No: HPFGUIDX 191166



--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "zanooda2" <zanooda2 at ...> wrote:
 
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> --- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Geoff" <geoffbannister123@> wrote:
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Steve:

Brief note to Geoff, I replied to your post in the movie thread. 


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> > Geoff wrote:
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> > When Voldemort cast the spell in the forest, I believe that 
> > Lily's power of love was still latent in Harry and forced 
> > the spell onto the Horcrux fragment in him.
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> zanooda:
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> But it's impossible to destroy a piece of soul without destroying the object in which it is concealed (the Horcrux). ...
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> In our case the object (the Horcrux) is Harry, and it's him who needed to be destroyed (killed) in order to end with the piece of LV's soul inside him. ...
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Steve:

The problem is, we need some working definition of "Destroyed". What if someone had poisoned Nagini? Would that have sufficiently rendered the snake useless as a Horcrux, keep in mind that dead inanimate objects can be Horcruxes. 

And, one could not simply mangle the inanimate Horcruxes to destroy them, the had to be 'mangled' with something capable of destroying the Horcrux itself - Basilisk Fang, Sword of Gryfindor, Feindfire, etc.... 

What if Harry's heart stopped beating for three beats, is that enough for the Riddle's Spirit to abandon the object, or does it require brain death. Or neither, perhaps it simply needs to be a spell capable of separating the "Spirit" from the "Object", but not necessarily destroying the object in the process. 

Hermione finds several methods of destroying Horcruxes, but none of them are easy, and all of them are dangerous. Perhaps there is a long list of spells and objects capable of separating the "Object" and the "Spirit". 

And I believe that is what happens, the Spirit does not die, it simply moves on, what the spell or object does is separates the two so the Spirit is no longer earth bound. 

Avada Kadavra must work, and under normal circumstances it would mean the death of the living object containing the Spirit. But, at least three times, it does not work on Harry. But, it may have work, and obviously did work, well enough to separate the Spirit from the Object. 

Just a few thoughts.

Steve/bboyminn