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Alla:
But again what does this has to do with anything I said? The only information
Sirius could have given to the Ministry to try to make his case if he was
allowed, was the information about Secret keeper and the switch. How was this
information a secret that was worth protecting because of loyalty to the Order?
The idea that spell itself was worth protecting was the only one I could see,
but since this was not it, I am at loss here.

Pippin:
The Order of the Phoenix is a secret organization, and Order business is not
supposed to be discussed with others. Not at all. Not even with your own
children, let along Ministry representatives who might be Death Eaters.

It is not Sirius's job to decide what Order business can be safely discussed.
Dumbledore can decide to do it, as head of the Order. Sirius does not have that
right, not only out of loyalty to Dumbledore but to all the other members of the
Order.

Alla:

I can totally see Dumbledore thinking it in his head. But to me all the games Dumbledore plays are not excluded from the review of the justice system.  Yes, I know this is sounds funny if we think about what justice system is in WW, but it is still my opinion. If what you  are arguing that it is OK to place innocent man in jail to make sure that Order keeps their secrecy for no reason AT ALL IMO, I just disagree. Yes, they wanted the world to believe that Sirius is a Secret keeper, for sure. He was not though and those who were supposed to be under protection from that are dead, now the innocent man is set up and you want it to be under the wraps in order for Order to keep their secrets?

What benefit it can serve in the war against Voldemort if nobody would ever learn that Peter was the real secret keeper?  As I said before, sure if there is a REAL benefit in the war, I can see it, but spell is well known to everybody, Lily and James are dead. And you think it is beneficial why? I can see the only reason why  - for Dumbledore wanting to keep Harry from Sirius' influence. I see no other reasons.

Oh and why Dumbledore was supposed to help Sirius IMO. First of all I am arguing that he was supposed to investigate further, just dug a little bit deeper, because I thought that he owes some loyalty to his soldiers too, but Dumbledore surely proved me wrong. If his investigation would have proved that Sirius was guilty, I definitely would not argue that he needs help. But again, all that it took is ONE conversation for him to be convinced of Sirius' innocence. Why this could not have happened thirteen, twelve, or at least TEN years earlier, beats me.


JMO,

Alla