The Nature & Destruction of Horcruxes ( was:... the Forest scene )

[rtbthw_mom]

No: HPFGUIDX 191173




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> > The problem is, we need some working definition of "Destroyed". What if someone had poisoned Nagini? Would that have sufficiently rendered the snake useless as a Horcrux, keep in mind that dead inanimate objects can be Horcruxes. 
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> Steve continues that thought:
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> What if Nagini were poisoned, well Nagine would be, more or less sort of, destroyed, but not destroyed by anything specifically known to destroy Horcruxes. 
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> I contend that if Nagine were simply killed, the 'spirit' would not separate from he form. Remember inanimate objects can be Horcruxes. When Nagini's corpse rotted to the bone, the 'spirit' would still be bound to it. When the bones turned to dust, the 'spirit' would still be bound to the dust. 
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> The Hufflepuff Cup could be reforged and turned into 20 rings, and those rings individually and collectively would still be bound to the bit of Voldemorts sould. Simple forging and normal fire to not have the power to break the bond between object and soul. 
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> Riddle's Diary could be thrown into a fire and burnt to ash, and the 'soul' would still be bound to that ash. 
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> So, simply killing Harry, or as some would say - destroying him, would not break the bond. Only very unique and specific spells and magical objects truly have the power to break the bond. 
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> We can only speculate that Avada Kadavra is a sufficient spell to break a Horcrux bond. I would seem so from the flow of the story, but JKR never flat out confirms it. And, really, who would think of using a killing curse against an inanimate object. 
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> I suspect in the long history of wizard, very very very few have ever thought to bond a soul fragment to another living thing. That's just too unpredictable. 
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> So, simply Harry's death, or if your prefer destruction, is not sufficient to break that Horcrux bond. But perhaps the Avada Kadavra is enough? 
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> I speculate that Avada Kadavra is enough to break the bond, and if it were used on the Hufflepuff Cup or the Riddle Diary, there is a chance that simply casting that spell on an inanimate object would break the Horcrux bond between them. 
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> But then ... I speculate.
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> Steve/bboyminn
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Pat:

My understanding of the horcruxes is that there are only a few things that can separate the soul from the horcrux container, those things listed in the book (don't have it with me right now or I would quote.) But I also felt (maybe I'm wrong, this was my interpretation) that the act of making the horcrux made the object indestructible by anything *but* one of those things - in other words, a fire would not be able to destroy Tom's diary, even as throwing it down the toilet was unable to do any damage to it. Therefore, the Hufflepuff cup wouldn't be able to be remade into 20 rings - it must stay as the Hufflepuff cup unless the horcrux in it is destroyed, which also will destroy the cup itself. 

I don't know if we have enough information to say whether or not the Avada Kedavra curse will break a horcrux - but I would speculate that it does not, since Harry was not killed by it, only went into Limbo Land with Voldy. 

Just my opinion. Food for thought.

Pat