Dumbledore

[nikkalmati]

No: HPFGUIDX 190871



--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Joey Smiley" <happyjoeysmiley at ...> wrote:
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> Nikkalmati wrote:
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> > DD was a man with some very distictive weaknesses.  He believed in himself, but not anyone else.  Did he really think Harry or McGonagall or Snape would run off and make a Horcrux if he told them what LV had done? 
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> Joey:
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> LOL. Yeah, he could have certainly shared it with McGonagall, Snape and even Moody. I think trusting none was a huge flaw in him. Like Snape said, he used their services without telling them what would happen in the end. Outrageous, I know. I guess he thought they might find it difficult to handle or he feared that secrets might leak.
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Nikkalmati

DD knew himself.  He knew he could not be trusted to become the Minister of Magic because he would not be able to resist the exercise of power over others.  At least he knew that much.
He also was unable to resist the Resurection Stone.  Recall that he had the Elder Wand (which he used in the MOM against LV), he knew where the Invisibility Cloak was, and with the Stone, he would have all 3 Hallows in his grasp.  Was that the temptation, not just to see Arianna, but to have the power to live forever?  Was that why he could not trust others - because he could not trust himself?

I wonder why DD drank the potion in the cave.  He seemed to know the potion would kill him.  Didn't he see it in Kreacher's mind when he performed Legimancy on him in OTP?  If so, why didn't he know Regulus had taken the necklace?  Was that s missed opportunity or did DD not see anything about the cave at that time?  

Nikkalmati


> Yet I think he couldn't bring himself to tell Harry and, it was better for Harry that way, I think. Harry was not 17 yet when DD was dying. Telling him earlier would have made his existence miserable. This way, he had to endure only a few hours of agony.

Nikkalmati

But he took terrible chances that way.  Things could have turned out very differently without him around.  What if Harry and the Trio had rushed into the Shreaking Shack and attacked LV and Nagini, as they planned?  Even if they killed them both (not a sure thing), there was still Harry the Horcrux and LV could have returned.  Also, as Snape suggested to LV, Harry could have been accidentally killed in the battle or by FiendFire or any number of ways. He could have left a message or told someone else to tell him.  Harry and his friends certainly went through a lot of suffering to find the truth.  Maybe JKR wanted the resder to understand that suffering is part of doing the right thing?

Nikkalmati 
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> Nikkalmati wrote:
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> > I think he would have chosen to die, if he thought he could save the WW that way.  DD could just have told him.  
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> Joey:
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> I think what DD should have told him was about the Hallows instead of leaving Hermione to break her head over the kids story book. I don't understand how it will stop being a quest just because he told Harry that the story of Deathly Hallows is true, that such objects do exist and that Harry already has one.
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> And why in the world didn't he *tell* Harry that the sword of Gryffindor will help him out?
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> Cheers,
> ~Joey :-)
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Nikkalmati

I think Harry already knew about the Sword and the plan was to tell Snape to get it to him, so that part was covered.  I do wonder why or how Neville and Ginny knew they should steal the Sword and what they planned to do with it.  He was unfairly afraid that Harry would be tempted to get the Hallows instead of the Horcruxes.

Nikkalmati