Dumbledore WAS: Re: Love and Joy vs. Hate and Despair

[nikkalmati]

No: HPFGUIDX 190959



--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "pippin_999" <foxmoth at ...> wrote:
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> > Nikkalmati
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> > But having one guy decide what is best for everyone else is just wrong.  Plus the ethical canon "the greater good" is subject to severe misuse and can excuse much bad behavior.
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> Pippin:
> I'm confused. In your earlier post you mentioned mob rule, and now you say that having one guy decide for everyone else is just wrong. But if one person does not stand up to protect the innocent against the mob, who will?

Nikkalmati

There are more than two choices.

Nikkalmati
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> I wish there was an ethical canon that wasn't subject to severe misuse and had never been used to excuse bad behavior -- unfortunately clever people like Dumbledore can always find a way to rationalize their decisions no matter what ethics they subscribe to. 
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Nikkalmati

Well,then you agree "the greater good" is not a reliable guide to behavior.

Nikkalmati

 
> BTW, there was certainly enough evidence to arrest Sirius, though I agree he should have been tried. But there is not the slightest chance that anyone would have believed his story, and even if Dumbledore had investigated it, what proof could he have found? 

Nikkalmati
yes, there should have been a trial.  I think Sirius was sent to Azkaban on his initial utterance.  He probably would have retracted his guilty plea if given a chance.  There was much information that could have come out.  Did they try Priori Incantatum on Sirius' wand?  What about the Animagi information?  Maybe Pettigrew could have been caught.

Nikkalmati
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> Sirius must have protested his innocence many times while Dumbledore was looking for the spy -- so why would Dumbledore think that he needed to hear more of it? That was a mistake, but there were  many people being sent to Azkaban on Crouch's say-so, or even being killed out of hand. Dumbledore would surely think they were  more deserving of his limited time and protection than Sirius was. 


Nikkalmati

 Such as Snape? :>).  I doubt DD was doing the investigating himself.  He probably relied on SS and maybe others to find the spy.

Nikkalmati

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