Love and Joy vs. Hate and Despair

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> June:
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 I have mentioned this loads of times on here but a couple of people are still on about Dumbledore being the bad guy and I think that although it is only really just a couple, that Margaret is seeing it as many, but it isn't.

Alla:

I do not even know what to say after Steve's excellent post, but I am going to try one more time. Please understand that even if people who disagree with you are seeing where you are coming from and find your explanation perfectly clear, they do not have to buy it. Again, canon closed, it is not like in the case of whether Snape is evil or Lupin is evil the new facts are going to come along. There are ambiguous issues like for me Dumbledore's actions that is why we can still argue them, but no matter how convincing your explanation is to you, it is not a requirement that people have to change their minds about it.

Personal attacks on the list members are not allowed here, personal attacks on the characters which may arise in the course of the debates are allowed and always had been. I know I am stating the obvious here, but characters' feelings cannot be hurt. Of course it should have some basis in canon, but how much basis and whether there is a basis, well people can differ on that. 

The purpose of these conversations in my opinion had never been to *convince* anybody, even though people certainly changed their mind on some things throughout the years. But that happens naturally or it does not. The most I wanted out of this debates was to see where other person is coming from, to be entertained or educated here. I never ever ever write to convince anybody of anything.  A lot of people still have the same stance on many topics that I remember since year 2002, 2003, 2004 and of course I am including myself in it, even if I changed my views on some topics too.