[HPforGrownups]Harry and Draco WAS: Dumbledore WAS: Re: Love and Joy vs. Hate and Despair

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> > Magpie:
> > I think he's just using "brainwashed" in the colloquial sense. He doesn't mean Lucius literally confunded him or anything, but that he was raised being taught these values all his life by the father he adored and respected (unlike Sirius the born rebel) and probably didn't even have other influences. 

 Birgitta:
> Ok, sorry to misunderstand.
> But by going by that definition isn't for example Luna also 
> "brainwashed" by her father?

Magpie:
To an extent. But based on the little we know about her father I'd say there might be some important differences. I could believe that Luna in part embraced her father's crazy theories to feel close to him and maybe even to keep the memory of her mother alive. But I'm not so sure that if she didn't agree with him he would reject her.

Lucius, otoh, is a bit of a bully who criticizes Draco with comments about how he might not be good for anything etc., and his mother's family blasts people off the family tree. So I would definitely say that with Draco there was probably more of a fear factor there. In Muggle terms I can see Luna more like the child of passionate vegans teaching some theories that might not actually be accurate. Draco's being raised as part of an angry gang.

-m