Chapter Discussion: Prisoner of Azkaban Ch 19: The Servant of Lord Voldemort

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> Nikkalmati:
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> It is canon that Snape did try to warn James, not personally (I'm sure that would have gone well), but through DD.  Snape must have been the source of the information that sent James and Lily into hiding.  

Alla:

I meant personal warning to James.

Nikkalmati: 
> I am sure Snape would not have given Sirius to the Dementors because it is canon that he did not.  He could have called the Dementors back or just left Sirius down by the lake alone, if that were what he intended to happen.

Alla:

Lets agree to disagree on this one, because to me Snape did exactly that, no matter what the intermediary point was. 

Nikkalmati:
> I also think it is canon that Snape did not intend for James and Harry to be killed.   He went to DD in a state of panic because for some reason he concluded LV would not comply with his request to spare Lily.   DD accuses Snape of wanting only Lily to live and tells Snape that is disgusting.  Then Snape replies "save them all."  DD looks into Snape's eyes and is satisfied.  What did he see except that Snape meant it?  He had not asked for James and Harry because he was not even thinking about them.  He was preoccupied with Lily, but it was not part of his plan that the others would die.  

Alla:

I do not have HBP in front of me, but doesn't Snape say - "Then save them all"? In other words when the disgusting request failed, lets try something which Dumbledore may find less disgusting, which includes Harry and James? If so, I interpret that initially Snape wanted only Lily to live and I actually believe Voldemort when he says that Snape wanted Lily for himself. Then if her young husband is out of the way and her young child all the better. Of course I still do not know how he imagined the grieving widow would submit to him, but I would not put it beneath him to put her under Imperio and at least enjoy her in bed. 

Nikkalmati:
Having been a student under DD, was it even feasible for Snape to think that DD would save Lily and only Lily?   

Alla:

Sure, I do not think it would have been feasible, but I am thinking about what Snape wanted, not about what Dumbledore would have done.