Patronus

[Joey Smiley]

No: HPFGUIDX 190414

Shelley wrote:

> I think it's a wrong assumption to link Patronus with the Order- as 
mentioned above, the examiner who asked Harry to perform one is an 
example of this common knowledge. Moreover, practically the whole world knew at that point that Harry could produce a Patronus, so common wizards weren't asking "what's a Patronus?" like it was some big secret. It's a common spell, even if most ordinary wizards haven't learned it for themselves how to do one. It's something recognized of "talented" wizards.

Nikkalmati wrote:

> Maybe the Patronus spell was well-known, but I doubt it.  Certainly Harry's Patronus became famous within a certain circle of knowledgable wizards, but commmon knowledge is a different thing.  

Joey:

I think I would agree with Shelley. 

During Harry's disciplinary hearing no one around is enquiring what a patronus is. They only expressed either surprise or disapproval at Harry's ability to create a Patronus. 

Also, the reactions from his fellow schoolmates (at Hog's Head when they hold their first DA meeting) confirm this understanding. They all knew what it was and that only wizards of good talent can produce one.  

Nikkalmati wrote:

> Making a Patronus requires not just skill and practice, but character.  The form reflects something essential about the person.  That is why I question why Umbridge could make one and why it has the same form as MacGonnagal's Patronus.  Why was Snape's a doe and why was Lily's a doe and Harry's a stag, and why was Tonks' a werewolf, unless it reflects a deep seated quality in the caster.

Joey:

I certainly agree that a Patronus does indeed seem to be tied to the caster's personality / mindset. Yet I don't think it will stop a DE from making one just because they lack in moral values. 

Lupin's instructions to Harry only talks of thinking something that made him really happy and the challenges was that Harry has to do this while hopelessness was filling his heart due to the Dementors. This shows that it is grit which matters in Patronus creation and not moral values. 

I know there is no canon evidence for this but yet I can't imagine Voldy not being able to make a Patronus. 

Cheers,
~Joey :-)