Chapter Discussion: Prisoner of Azkaban Ch 18: Moony, Wormtail, Padfoot and Pron

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Hi guys, just a warning that couple of one sided argumentative questions in this one was done deliberately and there will be more of Snape sided questions in next chapter, since we are doing next chapter too, because one of the points of doing it was to interject some questions which are sided towards Sirius and towards Snape :) Enjoy and please feel free to add your ownn questions.

Alla and Zara.


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PoA Chapter 18: Moony,Wormtail, Padfoot and Prongs



This chapter starts with a bang. Lupin thinks that the kids need to know the
story and then to see for themselves that Peter is Scabbers, Black just wants to
commit the murder that he was imprisoned for. Eventually he agrees to let Lupin 
talk, but wants him to be quick. Lupin talks about him receiving a bite when he
was young, his parents trying everything, Dumbledore wanting him to come to
school as long as the precautions were taken. We learn that the Whomping willow
was put there for Remus, to keep other students safe when he transforned. Lupin
tells the Trio that Dumbledore never learned about the three unregistered
animagi and that is how his friends kept him company when he transformed , they
got out of the Shack and ran to the villages. Hermione thinks it was dangerous.
Lupin agrees with her and says that the near misses still haunt him. Lupin
thinks that he betrayed Dumbledore's trust because he never told him that Sirius
was an animagus. Lupin tells the Trio that Professor Snape was in school with
them and that he fought very hard about his appointment as DADA professor. Lupin
tells the kids that Sirius played trick upon Snape that nearly killed him, AKA
"The prank". According to Lupin, Snape did not like them and they did not like
Snape, because Snape was supposedly jealous of James' talent on Quidditch field.
Sirius told Snape how to get into the Shack and Snape in fact did so, and James
pulled him out. Harry wonders whether this is why Snape did not like Lupin,
because he thought Remus was in on the joke and we see Snape snarling "That's
right" taking off Invisibility cloak and pointing the wand at Remus.

Questions
1. Lupin says the Marauders' map never lies, could this be a support for the
argument that the map does not have dark magic in it? Do you agree or disagree
with it?

2. Did you believed Lupin and Black (if you remember of course) when you were
reading the book for the first time that Peter was in the room?

3. As some of you may know as a Sirius' fan, but first and foremost as a reader,
I absolutely refuse to place all the blame for the prank on Sirius. I happen to
feel that just as Sirius had no business telling Snape about Remus' secret,
Snape had no business whatsoever of going to the Shack and nobody actually
forced him to go there. However as the very same reader, I am still racking my
brain what the hell was Sirius thinking would have happened to Remus if he were
to bite Snape, or if Snape would simply uncover his secret. So what was he
thinking? Was he thinking anything?

4. When Lupin was telling his interpretation of the Prank, were you curious
whether "
" after him saying that Snape was jealous of James' Quidditch talent
meant that there was more to the story?

5. Were you shocked to see Snape appear in the room?

6. To what extent Snape's belief Lupin was involved in the Prank was rational?

7. Feel free to add your question please.



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