From coverton1982 at hotmail.com Thu Dec 13 04:19:10 2012 From: coverton1982 at hotmail.com (corey) Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2012 22:19:10 -0600 Subject: wonder who would win in a duel between Professor Umbridge and Professor McGonagall? Message-ID: No: HPFGUIDX 192275 Hi to every one on the Potter group. I just thought I'd throw out a topic: Who does the group think would win between Professor Umbridge and Professor McGonagall? I think McGonagall would win. 'Cause Umbridge seems like she didn't know that many spells. Corey [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From liz.treky at ntlworld.com Fri Dec 14 13:44:29 2012 From: liz.treky at ntlworld.com (liz.treky at ntlworld.com) Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2012 13:44:29 -0000 Subject: [HPforGrownups] wonder who would win in a duel between Professor Umbridge and Professor McGonagall? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: No: HPFGUIDX 192276 McGonagall hands down! She always seemed like a very powerful witch, and I seem to remember that also being stated in a book, not sure which one though! Umbridge was able to not only to produce a Patronus but also to sustain it, so I think she had reasonable spell knowledge and skill. Liz -----Original Message----- From: corey Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 4:19 AM To: HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com Subject: [HPforGrownups] wonder who would win in a duel between Professor Umbridge and Professor McGonagall? Hi to every one on the Potter group. I just thought I'd throw out a topic: Who does the group think would win between Professor Umbridge and Professor McGonagall? I think McGonagall would win. 'Cause Umbridge seems like she didn't know that many spells. Corey [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ Apparate, walk or fly into the magic of Harry Potter at Ascendio, the 8th fan-event by HPEF, at the Portofino Bay Resort at Universal Orlando, July 12 - 15, 2012 http://www.hp2012.org http://twitter.com/HPEF Yahoo! Groups Links From coverton1982 at hotmail.com Fri Dec 14 20:33:56 2012 From: coverton1982 at hotmail.com (corey) Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2012 14:33:56 -0600 Subject: [HPforGrownups] wonder who would win in a duel between Professor Umbridge and Professor McGonagall? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: No: HPFGUIDX 192277 >> Corey: >> Hi to every one on the Potter group. I just thought I'd throw >> out a topic: Who does the group think would win between >> Professor Umbridge and Professor McGonagall? I think McGonagall >> would win. 'Cause Umbridge seems like she didn't know that many >> spells. > Liz: > McGonagall hands down! She always seemed like a very powerful > witch, and I seem to remember that also being stated in a book, > not sure which one though! Umbridge was able to not only to > produce a Patronus but also to sustain it, so I think she had > reasonable spell knowledge and skill. Corey: Yeah, that's true. I think Umbridge's Patronus was a cat, wasn't it? Can't remember. Okay, not counting Voldemort, who was the Potter character whom you disliked the most? Mine would be Umbridge. From technomad at intergate.com Sat Dec 15 07:12:42 2012 From: technomad at intergate.com (Eric Oppen) Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2012 01:12:42 -0600 Subject: [HPforGrownups] wonder who would win in a duel between Professor Umbridge and Professor McGonagall? In-Reply-To: References:

Message-ID: <20121215011242.z7mvf3wiokcsw4wo@webmail.intergate.com> No: HPFGUIDX 192278 Quoting corey : >> Liz: Umbridge was able to not only to >> produce a Patronus but also to sustain it, so I think she had >> reasonable spell knowledge and skill. > > > Corey: > Yeah, that's true. I think Umbridge's Patronus was a cat, wasn't > it? Can't remember. Okay, not counting Voldemort, who was the > Potter character whom you disliked the most? Mine would be > Umbridge. When did Umbridge have the occasion to produce a Patronus? ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. From andy.mills at btinternet.com Fri Dec 14 22:34:28 2012 From: andy.mills at btinternet.com (Andy Mills) Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2012 22:34:28 +0000 Subject: [HPforGrownups] wonder who would win in a duel between Professor Umbridge and Professor McGonagall? In-Reply-To: References:

Message-ID: <50CBA974.7010506@btinternet.com> No: HPFGUIDX 192279 > Corey: > Yeah, that's true. I think Umbridge's Patronus was a cat, wasn't > it? Can't remember. Okay, not counting Voldemort, who was the > Potter character whom you disliked the most? Mine would be > Umbridge. > I agree, definitely Umbridge. In fact I think I disliked her even more than I did Voldemort. Yes, Voldemort would be the character I'd least want to come up against, but Umbridge was just so horrible and made me so angry, I really couldn't stand her. AJM From geoffbannister123 at btinternet.com Sat Dec 15 08:04:43 2012 From: geoffbannister123 at btinternet.com (Geoff) Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2012 08:04:43 -0000 Subject: wonder who would win in a duel between Professor Umbridge and Professor McGonagall? In-Reply-To: <50CBA974.7010506@btinternet.com> Message-ID: No: HPFGUIDX 192280 --- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, Andy Mills wrote: Corey: > > Yeah, that's true. I think Umbridge's Patronus was a cat, wasn't > > it? Can't remember. Okay, not counting Voldemort, who was the > > Potter character whom you disliked the most? Mine would be > > Umbridge. AJM: > I agree, definitely Umbridge. In fact I think I disliked her even more > than I did Voldemort. Yes, Voldemort would be the character I'd least > want to come up against, but Umbridge was just so horrible and made me > so angry, I really couldn't stand her. Geoff: I find her a very sinister character. She was prepared to send Dementors to attack Harry in order to silence speculation about Voldemort's return. This seemed to spring from her being as obsessive about Fudge as Bellatrix was about Voldemort on the other side. We then find her holding a senior position in a Ministry dominated by Voldemort's people such as Thicknesse and Yaxley. A control freak who enjoyed abusing the pupils - and staff A woman supposedly on the side of good? Just referring back to Eric Oppen's comment, I dug around looking for Umbridge's Patronus because I couldn't recall one and realised I was looking in the wrong book... "Here, behind a balustrade, sat Umbridge, with Yaxley on one side of her. and Hermione, quite as white-faced as Mrs. Cattermole, on the other. At the foot of the platform a bright silver, long-haired cat prowled up and down and Harry realised that it was there to protect the prosecutors from the despair that emanated from the Dementors..." (DH "The Muggle-Born Registration Commission" P.213 UK edition) "The Patronus, he was sure, was Umbridge's...." (ibid. p.214) From jflynn at talktalk.net Sat Dec 15 07:31:50 2012 From: jflynn at talktalk.net (John Flynn) Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2012 07:31:50 -0000 Subject: [HPforGrownups] wonder who would win in a duel between Professor Umbridge and Professor McGonagall? References:

<50CBA974.7010506@btinternet.com> Message-ID: <3BE970DE2E3744B8914A743CB3D94D0B@jf> No: HPFGUIDX 192281 > Corey: > Yeah, that's true. I think Umbridge's Patronus was a cat, wasn't > it? Can't remember. Okay, not counting Voldemort, who was the > Potter character whom you disliked the most? Mine would be > Umbridge. No, McGonagall was a cat. John Flynn Stepney Green East London United Kingdom Also on Facebook From margdean56 at gmail.com Sat Dec 15 17:33:06 2012 From: margdean56 at gmail.com (Margaret Dean) Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2012 10:33:06 -0700 Subject: [HPforGrownups] wonder who would win in a duel between Professor Umbridge and Professor McGonagall? In-Reply-To: <3BE970DE2E3744B8914A743CB3D94D0B@jf> References:

<50CBA974.7010506@btinternet.com> <3BE970DE2E3744B8914A743CB3D94D0B@jf> Message-ID: No: HPFGUIDX 192282 On Sat, Dec 15, 2012 at 12:31 AM, John Flynn wrote: > > > > > Corey: > > Yeah, that's true. I think Umbridge's Patronus was a cat, wasn't > > it? Can't remember. Okay, not counting Voldemort, who was the > > Potter character whom you disliked the most? Mine would be > > Umbridge. > > No, McGonagall was a cat. Geoff in the previous post just found textev that Umbridge's was *also* a cat. Which means, of course... ...CAT FIGHT! :D --Margaret Dean From puduhepa98 at aol.com Sat Dec 15 20:31:32 2012 From: puduhepa98 at aol.com (nikkalmati) Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2012 20:31:32 -0000 Subject: wonder who would win in a duel between Professor Umbridge and Professor McGonagall? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: No: HPFGUIDX 192283 > > > > > > > Corey: > > > Yeah, that's true. I think Umbridge's Patronus was a cat, wasn't > > > it? Can't remember. Okay, not counting Voldemort, who was the > > > Potter character whom you disliked the most? Mine would be > > > Umbridge. > > > > No, McGonagall was a cat. > > Geoff in the previous post just found textev that Umbridge's was > *also* a cat. Which means, of course... > > ...CAT FIGHT! :D > > > --Margaret Dean > > Nikkalmati There is a difference between a Patronus and Transfiguration. McGonagall "became" a cat. Umbridge projected a cat. Remember all the kittens in her decorations? Since DD taught the Order members how to make a Patronus - I wonder how Umbridge learned it? Nikkalmati From k12listmomma at comcast.net Sat Dec 15 21:18:19 2012 From: k12listmomma at comcast.net (Shelley) Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2012 14:18:19 -0700 Subject: [HPforGrownups] Re: wonder who would win in a duel between Professor Umbridge and Professor McGonagall? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <50CCE91B.5090909@comcast.net> No: HPFGUIDX 192284 On 12/15/2012 1:31 PM, nikkalmati wrote: > Nikkalmati > > There is a difference between a Patronus and Transfiguration. McGonagall "became" a cat. Umbridge projected a cat. Remember all the kittens in her decorations? Since DD taught the Order members how to make a Patronus - I wonder how Umbridge learned it? Shelley: You are right that Patronus and Transfiguration spells were different. I may be wrong in this assessment, but I think many Wizards could produce a Patronus, but very few would be able to fully Transfigure. But, in your 2nd part, you assume that only Order members knew how to make a Patronus, and that is an incorrect assumption on your part. Remember, when Harry sat for exams and produced a full Patronus, his examiner was impressed that he could do so "at a young age". So she knew about them. And, when Harry was being chased in the Diagon Alley, he sent out a Patronus which then Dumbledore's Brother claimed was his goat Patronus- and those seeking Harry believed him- meaning they, too, knew about the Patronus spell. It was a common spell in the Wizarding World, at least as far that it was useful for sending messages and warding off Dementors. It was so easy that Harry was able to teach it to other students in the DADA group, so I get that the assumption of the adults is that it took a lot of skill to learn it, but in reality, it just took a good teacher to pass along correct instructions. Any bright and willing student could pick it up. Shelley From coverton1982 at hotmail.com Sat Dec 15 18:34:43 2012 From: coverton1982 at hotmail.com (corey) Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2012 12:34:43 -0600 Subject: [HPforGrownups] wonder who would win in a duel between Professor Umbridge and Professor McGonagall? Message-ID: No: HPFGUIDX 192285 Yeah I guess that would be a cat fight. Just wondering who are some of the group's favorite Patronis? I liked Neville's. I can't remember if he could do one or not. Remember it's the one spell that Hermione couldn't do. I thought that was kind of good. Because it always seems she did hardly nothing wrong when it came to school stuff. Corey. From kckriger at yahoo.com Sat Dec 15 22:25:19 2012 From: kckriger at yahoo.com (ken krieger) Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2012 14:25:19 -0800 (PST) Subject: [HPforGrownups] wonder who would win in a duel between Professor Umbridge and Professor McGonagall? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1355610319.56104.YahooMailClassic@web161201.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> No: HPFGUIDX 192286 ? > Corey: > Yeah I guess that would be a cat fight. Just wondering who are some > of the group's favorite Patronis? I liked Neville's. I can't > remember if he could do one or not. Remember it's the one spell that > Hermione couldn't do. I thought that was kind of good. Because it > always seems she did hardly nothing wrong when it came to school > stuff. Hi Professor McGonagall would win hands down, she is one tuff old bird, she didn't get to her placement at the school by kissing toads. Yours Ken From coverton1982 at hotmail.com Sat Dec 15 18:40:52 2012 From: coverton1982 at hotmail.com (corey) Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2012 12:40:52 -0600 Subject: [HPforGrownups] Re: wonder who would win in a duel between Professor Umbridge and Professor McGonagall? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: No: HPFGUIDX 192287 Geoff: I find her a very sinister character. She was prepared to send Dementors to attack Harry in order to silence speculation about Voldemort's return. This seemed to spring from her being as obsessive about Fudge as Bellatrix was about Voldemort on the other side. We then find her holding a senior position in a Ministry dominated by Voldemort's people such as Thicknesse and Yaxley. A control freak who enjoyed abusing the pupils - and staff A woman supposedly on the side of good? Corey: Yeah that's true. I've said to other people - take the worst teacher in high school and times her, meaning Umbridge, 100. I felt sorry for Malfoy, he was put into a tough deal. From technomad at intergate.com Sun Dec 16 02:35:45 2012 From: technomad at intergate.com (Eric Oppen) Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2012 20:35:45 -0600 Subject: [HPforGrownups] wonder who would win in a duel between Professor Umbridge and Professor McGonagall? In-Reply-To: <1355610319.56104.YahooMailClassic@web161201.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <1355610319.56104.YahooMailClassic@web161201.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20121215203545.myzkal0b0gooc0o8@webmail.intergate.com> No: HPFGUIDX 192288 Quoting ken krieger : > > >> Corey: >> Yeah I guess that would be a cat fight. Just wondering who are some >> of the group's favorite Patronis? I liked Neville's. I can't >> remember if he could do one or not. Remember it's the one spell that >> Hermione couldn't do. I thought that was kind of good. Because it >> always seems she did hardly nothing wrong when it came to school >> stuff. > > > Hi > Professor McGonagall would win hands down, she is one tuff old > bird, she didn't get to her placement at the school by kissing toads. > Yours Ken McGonagall/Umbridge? EEEUWWW! Off to find the brain bleach... ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. From annemehr at yahoo.com Mon Dec 17 04:16:42 2012 From: annemehr at yahoo.com (annemehr) Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2012 04:16:42 -0000 Subject: wonder who would win in a duel between Professor Umbridge and Professor McGonagall? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: No: HPFGUIDX 192289 > Corey: > Okay, not counting Voldemort, who was the > Potter character whom you disliked the most? Mine would be > Umbridge. > Annemehr: Umbridge is a definite choice. Rita Skeeter bothers me a lot, too. Here's another question: over the course of the series, did your opinion change drastically about any of the characters? That would be Lily for me - her behavior toward Snape was disgustingly disloyal. Yes, Snape had some issues, but then so did James - serious ones. But then, James was "cool" so it was okay. From coverton1982 at hotmail.com Mon Dec 17 02:26:25 2012 From: coverton1982 at hotmail.com (corey) Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2012 20:26:25 -0600 Subject: [HPforGrownups] wonder who would win in a duel betweenProfessor Umbridge and Professor McGonagall? In-Reply-To: <20121215203545.myzkal0b0gooc0o8@webmail.intergate.com> References: <1355610319.56104.YahooMailClassic@web161201.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <20121215203545.myzkal0b0gooc0o8@webmail.intergate.com> Message-ID: No: HPFGUIDX 192292 > Ken: > Professor McGonagall would win hands down, she is one tuff old > bird, she didn't get to her placement at the school by kissing > toads. Corey: Yeah, you're right about McGonagall didn't get to where she is by kissing toads that's for sure. I wish there were more Potter books. It would be cool to see what everyone is up to now. Oh, for example is Harry a dark wizard catcher, can Ron drive a Muggle car, is Neville still teaching Herbology? And so on. Oh, and is there another version of Voldemort? Just some stuff to think about. From coverton1982 at hotmail.com Tue Dec 18 23:02:44 2012 From: coverton1982 at hotmail.com (corey) Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2012 17:02:44 -0600 Subject: [HPforGrownups] Re: wonder who would win in a duel between Professor Umbridge and Professor McGonagall? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: No: HPFGUIDX 192293 >> Nikkalmati: >> I would bet on McGonagall, hands down. I think that >> transfiguration, in which she excells, is one of the hardest >> kinds of magic. Also, remember Umbridge did not want the >> students to learn even defensive spells against dark magic. >> I wonder if she also did not know much about defensive magic >> and had never learned to duel? Corey: Oh, that does bring up a good point about Umbridge. Hope everyone has a good holiday! From dumbledore11214 at yahoo.com Wed Dec 19 03:04:06 2012 From: dumbledore11214 at yahoo.com (dumbledore11214) Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2012 03:04:06 -0000 Subject: wonder who would win in a duel between Professor Umbridge and Professor McGonagall? Message-ID: No: HPFGUIDX 192294 Annemehr: Umbridge is a definite choice. Rita Skeeter bothers me a lot, too. Here's another question: over the course of the series, did your opinion change drastically about any of the characters? That would be Lily for me - her behavior toward Snape was disgustingly disloyal. Yes, Snape had some issues, but then so did James - serious ones. But then, James was "cool" so it was okay. Alla: I cheered for Lily ;). I felt like she gave her loyalty to unworthy person and stuck with him for way too long and more than he deserved and the word that broke the camel back most certainly would have been the same for me. But the only character I changed my opinion drastically about was of course Dumbledore and maybe even with him drastically was the wrong word, because it was not the one action of his that made me change that opinion. It was several things and with every new bit of knowledge he sank lower and lower and lower in my eyes till he drowned pretty close to you know who :-). Everybody else? Eh, no matter what I discovered, it was not enough. James and Sirius? Bad actions, but overall no change of opinion. Actually, come to think of it, yes my opinion of James and Lily changed for the better, especially of James, but it was never bad, so I guess that did not count. Snape, honestly, not really. Oh I was hoping he would turn to be serving Voldemort, sure, but my overal opinion of him was the one that I am sure you know and after book seven it is still the very same opinion with some minor adjustments. Kids? Again, not really. Malfoy had all the potential to do that, but no, not really, did not see any drastic changes in him, just some minor ones. Harry? Definitely not ;) Maybe Hermione slowly made me think of her worse, but again, I always liked her less of the Trio anyway. Thanks for the questions. Alla From willsonkmom at msn.com Thu Dec 20 03:30:58 2012 From: willsonkmom at msn.com (willsonteam) Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2012 03:30:58 -0000 Subject: chaning opinion was Re: wonder who would win..... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: No: HPFGUIDX 192295 > Annemehr: > Here's another question: over the course of the series, did your opinion change drastically about any of the characters? That would be Lily for me - her behavior toward Snape was disgustingly disloyal. Yes, Snape had some issues, but then so did James - serious ones. But then, James was "cool" so it was okay. > Potioncat: I love the way JKR both developed characters and revealed characters in the HP series (she really does it in her non-HP book, where you see multiple PoVs and that has given me some new insight on how she may have viewed her WW characters) I changed my opinion of James and Sirius big time. In Sirius' case I'm not sure if I would have changed my opinion about adult Sirius if we had not been discussing him so much. But once I saw child and youth Sirius, it was done. I did not like him or James. Lily fell too, though to be honest, she did need to break off with Severus. Though I wonder if she had been a better friend sooner if things could have been better for him. How I viewed Dumbledore changed...or perhaps matured. But I did not go from liking him to disliking him, just understanding his motives and limitations better. I was devastated by Snape's death and saddened by his whole story. But oddly enough, (Alla, sit down) the more time passes the less I like him, though I still find the character intriguing. Great question! Potioncat From foxmoth at qnet.com Fri Dec 21 19:16:05 2012 From: foxmoth at qnet.com (pippin_999) Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 19:16:05 -0000 Subject: chaning opinion was Re: wonder who would win..... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: No: HPFGUIDX 192296 > > Annemehr: > > > Here's another question: over the course of the series, did your opinion change drastically about any of the characters? That would be Lily for me - her behavior toward Snape was disgustingly disloyal. Yes, Snape had some issues, but then so did James - serious ones. But then, James was "cool" so it was okay. > > > Pippin: I love the way JKR changes our whole view of Lily's conduct in SWM without giving us any more information about the incident itself. What looks like exceptional gallantry towards a relative stranger makes only a feeble defense of a friend. But Snape and Lily's friendship was already over, IMO, they just didn't know it yet. Their trust in one another had already evaporated. The sad thing is, it wasn't over any thing they had done to one another, but only because of misplaced loyalty to their housemates. I don't think it is quite fair to Lily to say that she ignored James's issues. She was not willing to go out with him, even though she did find him attractive despite herself, until he had, at least as far as she knew, changed his ways. That he may have conned her a bit about that is in character for him. As for Dumbledore, my opinions of him changed along with Harry's. He is not, after all, the personification of Providence, only, IMO, a believer in it. Providence, the doctrine that everything happens for a purpose, and everything, even evil and suffering, is created for the sake of good, goes a long way towards helping me understand why Dumbledore behaves as he does. Pippin From shaun.hately at bigpond.com Sat Dec 29 07:23:30 2012 From: shaun.hately at bigpond.com (Shaun Hately) Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2012 18:23:30 +1100 Subject: Chapter Discussion: Chapter Eighteen: The Goblet of Fire: The Weighing of the Wands In-Reply-To: <50D63DD2.4060505@bigpond.com> References: <50D63DD2.4060505@bigpond.com> Message-ID: <50DE9A72.60807@bigpond.com> No: HPFGUIDX 192297 SUMMARY As the chapter opens, Harry is dealing with the results of somebody putting his name into the Goblet of Fire. Hermione believes that he didn't do it himself and explains to him that Ron is jealous of him and that is part of the reason he is reacting the way he is. Harry doesn't see why he has to be the one to try and make things up between them. Hermione convinces Harry to write to Sirius to ask for advice. With virtually everybody believing Harry put his own name into the Goblet, things become quite miserable for him - he is seen as trying to take some sort of undeserved glory for himself. While little excuse is needed for a fight with Draco Malfoy, one results, turning into a magical duel in which Goyle and Hermione are the ones who are injured. Hermione's teeth grow to an unnatural length, and Professor Snape seems particularly cruel in dealing with this - telling her that he sees no difference from her normal appearance. Harry and Ron are punished for reacting to this cruelty with a loss of housepoints and a detention each. Harry finds himself being interviewed by Rita Skeeter along with the other three Champions, and asks him some very personal questions and seems to make up her own answers to tell the story she wants to tell, rather than anything resembling the truth. Ollivander weighs the wands of each of the Champions, and when Harry returns to his dormitory, he discovers there is a letter waiting for him from Sirius setting up a fireplace meeting. Sirius does appear to be worried about what has happened. QUESTIONS (1) When you first read the book what were your theories or thoughts about who had put Harry's name into the Goblet? Or why somebody might have done so? (2) We are told, through Hermione, that Ron is jealous of Harry. What is your reaction to this revelation? What do you think of Ron's behaviour towards Harry? Assume for a moment, that Harry had put his name into the Goblet - would you consider Ron's anger to be justified in that situation? (3) What did you make of Snape's reaction to Hermione's teeth? Did you consider this was simply a normal part of Snape's overall nastiness or did it seem to you to be unusually cruel, even for him? (4) Rita Skeeter - what were your impressions of her? Considering that, by the time of Goblet of Fire, JKR had become a major public figure and the subject of numerous media pieces, do you think that Rita might tell us something about JKR's own reaction to certain types of journalism and journalist? (5) The chapter's title is 'The Weighing of the Wands' and we are told about the characteristics of each of the Champion's wands. As the 'Wand Chooses the Wizard', do you think this information gives us any insight into the four champions? (For ready reference: Fleur Delacour: Rosewood. Nine and a half inches. Inflexible. Contains the hair of a Veela - Fleur's grandmother. This wand was not made by Ollivander, but the maker is not named. Cedric Diggory: Ash. Twelve and a quarter inches. Pleasantly springy. Contains a single hair of a particularly fine male unicorn. Made by Ollivander. Viktor Krum: Hornbeam. Ten and a quarter inches, and thicker than normal. Quite rigid. Contains a dragon heartstring. Made by Gregorovitch. Harry Potter: Holly. Eleven inches.Nice and supple. Contains a phoenix feather from Fawkes - the only other feather Fawkes gave to a wand is that contained in Voldemort's wand. Made by Ollivander.)