The Overarching message - Caning

[jules]

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> > > I disagree that hating fictional character is offensive to anybody. I also think that Snape mind raped Harry on a regular basis - that is what to me Legilimency is and to me there are plenty of hints in the book that Snape legilimenced Harry when he had no idea that Snape poked around in his mind.
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Julie:
The problem is, Snape doesn't live in a vacuum. He lives at
Hogwarts and within the Wizarding World, which has a very 
different set of standards than the real world. I have no
doubt Dumbledore legilimized both teachers and students,
perhaps on a regular basis. And god knows what he put in 
those lemon drops he offered to everyone who ever visited
his office!

Human rights have a very limited meaning in the Wizarding
World, from what we've seen. Discerning students feelings 
and intentions--which seems to be the actual effect of 
Legilimency as we've been told it isn't reading someone's
thoughts--seems to be just one of the many accepted (or at
the very least tolerated) methods of addressing suspected
misbehavior.

As for calling it "mind-rape" that seems a bit extreme.
That to me would be forcing yourself into someone else's
mind while that person is resisting, causing actual pain
and damage--which would be much more invasive than the
quick surface reading involved in the Legilimency Snape 
and Dumbledore seem to practice. (And, no, I wouldn't 
call the Occlumency lessons mind-rape since they were 
sanctioned and both Snape and Harry participated freely,
reluctant though both were to do so.)

Julie