The Overarching message - Caning

dumbledore11214 dumbledore11214 at yahoo.com
Sun Jan 1 23:52:54 UTC 2012


No: HPFGUIDX 191661



.> Pippin:
> Snape's attempt to use legilimency on Draco is brushed off with contempt, not the shock and revulsion I would expect if it was considered the equivalent of a sex crime. 

Alla:

As I said above I do not hold the legal, ethical,  political norms of WW in high regard. They also thought it was okay to throw a person in prison, well, to say without proper investigation would be an understatement. They allowed Umbridge to "teach", whats a little mind invasion? I dislike Draco as you may know, but I most certainly consider invasion of his mind just as despicable as Harry's.


Pippin: 
>   Snape and Dumbledore may feel, as adults in a position of responsibility, that they have the right to examine any student's mind if necessary, just as Madam Pomfrey can examine their bodies. Don't let's forget there is a war going on and Harry's mind is a battleground, already invaded by the enemy.

Alla:

Yes, they  may feel that and I may  feel that they mind rape their students on a regular basis. I think JKR at least implied very strongly what she thinks of old Hogwarts teachers' tactics. I wish she said it in canon, but even Minerva eventually was not a Headmaster, hopefully Hogwarts (of course if it had been a real place)  eventually got better teachers than Snape, Dumbledore, Quirrel and yes, Minerva, because like her overall as I am, I cant stand her initial treatment of Neville.


Pippin:
<SNIP>
> Respecting the only request Harry made to keep some things private, Snape did not return to Harry's thoughts of Cho -- and this was probably too bad, because otherwise the love effect might have been discovered sooner 

Alla:

Oh. Thanks for reminding me. But as I said,  I did not think of lessons as a mind rape from the beginning. Harry consented, so brutal as it was, the fact that Snape respected his request was not here not there for me.
> Pippin
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